Tomitrout, being on the stream 400+ times for probably over 4000 hours of on stream experience from 2006 to 2010 fishing the entire 1 mile section has much more credibility than performing some one-off electroshocking on a handpicked 50 yard section. I showed you in a previous post why, through actual mathematics, the data can be misleading so stop with your whining about needing scientific data.
Once again, I ask you and others (who continually refuse to answer this question), how much stream side experience did you have on that stream outside the ditch from 2006 to 2010?
As BMarx points out, the stream was NEVER surveyed in the lower half and that’s the section that held the highest numbers of fish and also the biggest fish. Now the lower half has a fraction of the fish that were once there. Some moved into the ATW section and were harvested, some died from siltation, and some moved upstream into the 200 yard sections of previously barren stream that now hold downstream transplants. So all the scientific data that you wish to reply on shows is that a previously barren 200 yard section of stream got better and that’s it – you can’t extrapolate that “scientific data” to the entire stream because the stream is a dynamic ecosystem and surveying one discrete spot doesn’t apply to anything other than that spot; however OBSERVATION FROM 4000+ hours of on stream experience clearly indicates the rest of the stream has declined. Dozens of holes that were 4-5 feet deep and held 30+ trout have been silted to maybe 2 feet deep and no longer hold trout. Runs that held dozens and dozens or young of year trout have been silted and no longer hold trout. But my observations are useless because it doesn’t jive with what you want to believe.
In all honestly I wouldn’t get into an argument with you on the Letort and if you came on here and said your observations are different that what the PFBC or TU data is saying and you wanted to dispute their data, I would believe you 100% over the “scientific data” because you’ve got sufficient experience on that stream to make educated observations. You’re obviously not stupid and you do have good success on the Letort so you obviously know what you are doing and know that stream very well, much better than I. So what if I carefully selected a few non-productive spots on the Letort to electroshock in the section you fish and the scientific data comes back and says there are few fish but your experience shows there are a lot of fish because you see them and catch them, I guess by your argument you are wrong because your observations and not scientific data.
That is the point.
