Mc, Dc ( couldn't resist writing that ) Sweet looking ties there. John, sounds like the perfect set up for some vise time, I dont see where that one would spook em...
I got this pattern from a video from tightlinevideo on youtube, and I really like it. The deer hair body is pretty easy to tie - looked intimidating at first, but it ended up not being that hard. Also the antron to split the hackle fibers in front is smart - gives the impression of split wings.
Letort Hopper:
This one is tied with a product called "web wing," but i tied a few others with the standard turkey tail fibers.
^no prob and thanks mike! They are really simple, the body is just the marabou tail wrapped forward, then the black saddle hackle and finished with a big hen feather and grizzly.
I dropped one in my fish tank to see the motion of it and it killed one of my tetras.