Warm water fly fishermen who just don't care

Thanks fellows that strive to enhance Pa. Fishing options. I rejoice and celebrate you! I will talk about you as ICONS. Or a better term, :FOREFATHERS OF WISDOM!

AGAIN AND AGAIN, SUPPORT PA. FISH COMMISSION! I will never tire of this. If you agree, send them some support! A kind word is the starting point! ENJOY, ENJOY!

Thank you!
 
I need some more information.
1. Is this a stocked stream?
2. What stream that is 75 degrees only has trout?

Edit: just saw Dave asked question 2.
 
ryansheehan, I guess, what day, what time, what month, what type, a black man or a white man. Seems, you ask a lot for what does not matter at all! The truth is all the matter!

Fisherman, fishing, on a hot day, in a hot month! Facts! Your play is off base! The stream is not yours to see, Do you fish brother, do you like it. I do not like fakes! I am hard because, i was born hard!

Your question, is off tone and you should adjust your question more towards fishing! Yes, hard, i know, i am a fisherman, my wisdom fails you, i wonder what fisherman you are. Yes, might be offensive but i do not fish for you, i fish for all. I fish with the might of the Almighty! Does it make a difference, if you fish, during the season, with a license, the way you want! Hard i am, sorry i am old cause at one time somebody gonna get a bruise!

Maxima12
 
Mr. Max, I wish my kids had you as an uncle. That is a compliment!

Thank you for a great opinion and furthering the conversation.

Cheers Sportsmen.
 
O K to do it on one stream and not another! Then o k today and not tomorrow! Boy, i am mad on this one! Fly fisherman are snobs, yes, Look back in the archives. Bob Rinn told me so. Fly fishing Snobs. Thats what we are seen as, by everybody! Snobs, I am not a snob on any type of fishing.

I like the old crew believe, fish, fly fish and i hope i am there! If i can not come, have a great time!

This business of the new guys you want to follow, give them 50 and they will show you then 50 more! Business of fly fishing, how about the friendship of flyfishing, pot of coffee, dog on a stick and a smile!

YOU ALL FORGOT! TOO BAD! FOR YOU, I DID NOT!


Brotherhood, Let me think-------------How much money can i get!

The answer----0 for brotherhood-----------12,000 for fake news!

not really fake news, just what you pay for not doing it "YOURS".

I say, "IT"S YOURS", just try!
 
DaveS wrote:

But I am curious as to what 75F stream has only trout?
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I know of a few. Which speaks to the testament that browns can handle pretty warm temperatures..
 
Let them fish. Maybe educate them, but I agree, people often don't do well with being told what they are doing is wrong.

Just my experience from where I live. Trout fishing this time of year is very light. If the water is 75° F the trout are most likely not actively feeding.

I don't fish for wild browns if the water is any warmer than 68°F. All I can do is do what I know is best and that I'm doing the right thing. I can't be driven crazy by the fact that others will forever be doing something I don't agree with......like littering..I hate it, I pick it up, it's everywhere, it's easy to not do, and yet it happens constantly.
 
It's really easy.
Imo if you are fishing a warm stocked trout stream for left over stockers for table fare you are ok. Wild fish no.

Anything else, why?
When its to warm for trout you are being selfish.

Many other fish in pa
 
Thank you, Mike.
 
This stream happens to be one that gets warm this time of year. It is cool in the upper portion and also has a few large cold water refuges in its length. And it is entirely wild fish except one small section not near where we were. So it is probably true they were not going to catch any unless they were on top of one of the springs perhaps.
So far I haven't called out any non mask wearers at the hardware store but when it comes to big wild trout I draw the line.
I used to think flyfishermen might be a conservation minded group but I guess my experience and even this post shows they are all over the place on the issue.
 
Lets say you happen to get a 20" wild trout who is laying in the cooler water. The fish is already stressed. It run 30 yds downstream into low oxygen water, struggles and you eventually land it. You take the hero shots and then try to release it. What happens next?

Maxi, are you good with harvesting big wild trout?
 

There is some local year round streams here so Im used to seeing fishing all the time some others get warm Im for just using common sense.
 
I would hate to see the trout be released and die..if they kept it, then so be it. A trout that is 20" might not live much longer naturally anyways and it has already been extremely lucky to live so long and grow so big.

I would release the fish, but I would also not be fishing during that period. But really, I agree that it is a legal activity. Even if the water is cold do you realize how many people handle fish poorly? How many fish die later upon release? Maybe those anglers were new to fly fishing and just itching to fish? They will learn.
 
A lot of opinions have been shared here.

Let me first say I agree that wild trout should be left alone when the water temp is at or above 70 degrees F. This opinion is based on my understanding of trouts' tolerances and metabolisms. I may be wrong.

Having said that, I also agree what the accused anglers were doing was LEGAL.

Two questions:
1. Should Larkmark have said anything to them?
2. Should they have been fishing there?

To the first question: My answer is a qualified "yes". I probably would have politely pointed out the water temp situation then left it up to them to decide what to do. Maybe they don't care. Maybe they could then make an informed choice.

To the second question: I think not. My answer is based on my ethics even thought it would have been legal to fish.

I am reminded of the old saying: Just because you can do a thing, that doesn't mean you should do that thing.

Sometimes it's best to let things go. It's hard to do when things run counter to our biases.

Sometimes, we can ease that difficulty by sharing our experiences with like minded individuals. Sometimes not.
 
I sometimes stop when it is convenient to tell anglers that a stocked stream is so warm that they are unlikely to catch anything. I only do so when I happen to see them arriving or just setting up at the time I go by on my bike and I only do so when I have a near-by water to suggest where results are likely to be better. I am never thinking about the fish in these warm situations, primarily because there are few remaining and they are unlikely to bite. I am concerned about the anglers‘ experiences and helping them to have a good time.
 
Mike wrote:
I sometimes stop when it is convenient to tell anglers that a stocked stream is so warm that they are unlikely to catch anything. I only do so when I happen to see them arriving or just setting up at the time I go by on my bike and I only do so when I have a near-by water to suggest where results are likely to be better. I am never thinking about the fish in these warm situations, primarily because there are few remaining and they are unlikely to bite. I am concerned about the anglers‘ experiences and helping them to have a good time.
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It is likely that just about everyone on here is an avid or semi-avid FFer and is aware that fishing for trout in high temps can be deadly to the fish.

But there are many anglers are not aware to this.

In fact many anglers you see on a given stream are not even aware there are wild trout in many PA streams.

A friendly exchange of info to anglers can be a good thing.

But don't preach....teach instead, and move on like Mike does.
 
A question was asked if i was o k with harvesting 20 inch wild trout. My answer is yes, {if i choose to do so}. I have one in the freezer now.

This fish is for friends of mine that own a company and would rarely get time or the chance to fish. They love Trout. I love these great people and took the time to catch them a real beauty. Note here, 1 fish, not a dozen.

So, on that given day, i choose to keep one. Today, i choose not to keep any. Matter of fact, today i choose not to fish because it is too hot out. But, who knows what i choose to do tomorrow!

Funny how life is all about choices.
 
If everyone knew everything, and everyone cared about everything, what a boring life it would be.
 
I don't disagree with your freedom to make your own choices in these things, Max, so long as they are within the law.

But a 20" wild trout? To me, that would be like eating a 20" smallmouth. One could do this if they really wanted to, but I can't imagine why anybody would want to. At least not prepared any way I'm aware of.

If these people are really your friends, you'd feed them a commensurate amount of crappie or yellow perch, like maybe 60" laid end to end. That would be a much more friendly thing to do, IMO..🙂
 
I agree about not preaching or getting in an argument. I'm a frail old guy in my sixties so I certainly don't push it with anyone. I kind o of just casually mentioned it and then went to my car a few feet away and got my thermometer. Just wanted to show them the actual temp. They really weren't interested in anything I had to say which is fine. I have never done this with anyone before. I do feel protective of the fish. I know they aren't mine of course. My dad told me to respect the game and fish so I try.
 
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