Southeastern PA Muskies

Mike, i used to fish Nockamixon at night back in the early to mid 90s for striper and walleye on spinning gear. I have seen you say the good walleye fishing is no more, was that fishery the result of stocking back then and did they discontinue it? Thanks
 
You could also add a Mac's river runner to save the prop.
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Yes, still some there based on a conversation with the present AFM. Source unknown. Reproduction?
Yes, still some there based on a conversation with the present AFM. Source unknown. Reproduction?
ok , I might try to target them this year. I only ever caught tigers there. “Reproduction” I guess there are some pure breds ? If I get any , would the current AFM want any scale samples? I remember years ago my Brother sent some to you for aging. Thanks again for the info. Much appreciated
 
Mike, i used to fish Nockamixon at night back in the early to mid 90s for striper and walleye on spinning gear. I have seen you say the good walleye fishing is no more, was that fishery the result of stocking back then and did they discontinue it? Thanks
By that time the walleye population was dependent upon stocking, but the fishery from previous stockings was still quite good in 1996 (the specific year, I believe) during an angler use and harvest study. The success of stocking, however, greatly declined as the largemouth bass and smallmouth bass populations expanded, no doubt aided by the implementation of the Big Bass regs at the lake, which further allowed the bass populations to grow. Bass in lakes feed on fingerling walleye and the conflict between maintaining good bass populations and good walleye populations in impoundments is well established as being problematic for fisheries managers. It’s a common occurrence in Pa and elsewhere.

In one unusual occurrence, however, in a newly established Pa lake at the time (Kahle Lake, Clarion/Venango Co’s) there was a temporary shift from bass dominance to walleye dominance and back to bass dominance. This all happened in about the first decade or so of the lake’s existence and was most likely an artifact of the stocking densities and dual successes in the new impoundment.(Likewise, you may recall the tremendous success of 1200 tiger muskies stocked at about a 1.5-2 inch length when Leaser Lake was re-impounded following the dam’s repair. In a normal situation in an established lake stockings of those sizes of t mky would have been fruitless).

Walleye stocking in Nockamixon was terminated after 2014 following more than a decade of attempts to overwhelm the bass population by doubling the allowed statewide maximum stocking rate during alternate years and normal rates during most other years. It didn’t work based on a population evaluation with trap nets. A low density population continued to exist despite the high stocking rate.

You can find the warmwater/coolwater stocking records by county and water body within each county going back to the yr 2000 on the PFBC web site.
 
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Carry a spare prop in the boat is simple and cheap enough. The Delaware river is not that rock treacherous. Yes you have to know certain areas to avoid but the river is easily navigable without having to worry excessively about prop damage. Learning the nuances of river is a process that may take years but that doesn’t mean you can’t enjoy the process. Generally speaking, I would recommend staying away from the Yardley boat ramp area. This has the least amount of good safe water with a prop. In order of most hazardous to least hazardous stretches, the Lambertville, bulls island and Byran ramps on the NJ side offer good fishing and more prop friendly deeper waters. All 3 ramps have places to avoid and each area has limits where it’s probably best that you don’t go above or below. That’s where the ramp hopping comes into play. Pick an area and stay within its confines. You will soon enough learn which areas of the river are better under different conditions. Don’t be afraid, get out and enjoy the river. It’s way better then the Nock in my opinion.
 
you can run that in the river no problem. look at the shad guys most in boats like that. i ran the river with a wood 1965 14' runabout wood with a 35 hp evenrude long shaft for years. just learn it slowly. dont go blasting up river until you learn the rocks.
I would have extra sheer pins and the tools to replace them with you just in case. probably a good idea for any body of water.
 
By that time the walleye population was dependent upon stocking, but the fishery from previous stockings was still quite good in 1996 (the specific year, I believe) during an angler use and harvest study. The success of stocking, however, greatly declined as the largemouth bass and smallmouth bass populations expanded, no doubt aided by the implementation of the Big Bass regs at the lake, which further allowed the bass populations to grow. Bass in lakes feed on fingerling walleye and the conflict between maintaining good bass populations and good walleye populations in impoundments is well established as being problematic for fisheries managers. It’s a common occurrence in Pa and elsewhere.

In one unusual occurrence, however, in a newly established Pa lake at the time (Kahle Lake, Clarion/Venango Co’s) there was a temporary shift from bass dominance to walleye dominance and back to bass dominance. This all happened in about the first decade or so of the lake’s existence and was most likely an artifact of the stocking densities and dual successes in the new impoundment.(Likewise, you may recall the tremendous success of 1200 tiger muskies stocked at about a 1.5-2 inch length when Leaser Lake was re-impounded following the dam’s repair. In a normal situation in an established lake stockings of those sizes of t mky would have been fruitless).

Walleye stocking in Nockamixon was terminated after 2014 following more than a decade of attempts to overwhelm the bass population by doubling the allowed statewide maximum stocking rate during alternate years and normal rates during most other years. It didn’t work based on a population evaluation with trap nets. A low density population continued to exist despite the high stocking rate.

You can find the warmwater/coolwater stocking records by county and water body within each county going back to the yr 2000 on the PFBC web site.
Why would they want to overwhelm the bass? Was the walleye fishing that popular?
 
Why would they want to overwhelm the bass? Was the walleye fishing that popular?
Yes, it was always popular, but as the bass population came on strong from its depauperate state in most of the 1980’s bass gained in popularity. With substantial protection from harvest impacts added via implementation of the Big Bass Program, the bass population continued to grow, as did the fishery. And as anticipated, the walleye population and fishery declined over time.

By overwhelm the bass population, I meant that with annual stocking and alternate year double stocking rates the hope was that enough walleye fingerlings would survive to maintain an attractive fishery. It didn’t work, but the bass anglers were quite pleased with their fishery and that fish population is now one of the better ones for quality size bass in Pa.
 
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The night bite for hybird stripers and walleyes was pretty popular back when i was into it in the early to mid 90s. There are still some hog walleye in there, i have a pic from a friend of a friend about 5 years ago from early spring. The pic looks like its way up 3 mile creek and the walleye is probably 10 pounds and clearly full of eggs.

If i was looking to walleye fish these days i would most likely be fishing the Delaware river above Trenton and up

I wasnt aware of the opposite relationship between the two species in terms of existing together that Mike described, cool info. I also wasnt surprised when i heard that both the bass and musky fishing had taken off at the Nock as there was an excellent population of alewife shad in the lake, just tons of em, which makes for an excellent forage base.

Are there still stripers in there? Hybrids? I remember hearing at one point they were stocking full breed stripers in there also but not sure if that ever took off
 
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