Green Weenie

Andy you crack me up. I appreciate someone not afraid to offend anyone. I hope to get to fish with you one of these times on the D. My work and crazy schedule has me tied up on most weekends but it will happen one of these times. FWIW I haven't tied on a green weenie or SJW in years. Have fished some egg patterns though during sucker spawns.
 
Andy,

I respect your position. I'm just looking at it differently, I guess. Do insects hold a special appeal over other forms of natural food? Specifically, aquatic flying insects? Cause inchworms are indeed insects, just terrestrial. No different than a hopper or a beetle. Do you feel the same about baitfish imitations, such as streamers?

If I'm on the Sewer, and all those bugs are going at the same time. That's fine. I'm cycling between various life forms of caddis, midges, etc. Then I see a sulpher, and a fish gobbles it down. Of course I immediately switch to a sulpher. I assume you would too.

Now, lets say I'm on Clark's Creek. There are various bugs about, and I'm doing the same thing. Now, I see an inchworm descend from a tree onto the water, followed by "plop", a rise and said inchworm dissapears. I'm gonna change to a green weenie, an unweighted one if possible and try to float the thing. I see absolutely no difference between this and matching the sulpher on the sewer.

Likewise, if I'm on Spring Creek, waiting for BWO's to start up on the day. I'm maybe throwin a Hare's Ear or tossin a dry around to the occasional riser while I'm waiting. Then, on the side of a shallow tail out, I see a pod of suckers rooting around. Behind them in the riffle is a semi-circle of nice browns jockeying for position, and occasionally one darts forward to grab something I can't see. I'm gonna change to a sucker spawn and drift it behind those suckers, and not feel the slightest pang of guilt about it.

All of the above have happened to me, and in all cases, I was doing the same thing. Matching the natural food source.
 
I was fishing a stream in June heavy with overhanging trees. When I first got into the stream, I saw a green thing hanging from silk from a tree. I thought, "Wow someone else was here and got their green weenie stuck in a tree!" I thought this unusual as very few people fish as far up as I was. As I got closer, I noticed it was a natural inch worm drooping down from silk. As the morning went on, I saw hundreds more doing the same thing. You bet your butt I cut off my caddis and tied on an unweighted green weenie.

Matchin' the hatch ;-)
 
Streamers to match baitfish spewed over the dam or an eel pattern to match the young headed tp sea, sure. Do I randomly hurl a chicken on a hook? No. Once in a blue moon if I get talked into it. An ant or beetle would match what a summertime bank feeder is chowing on. I've never seen a GW tied to match the proportions of an inchworm.

This should get Gary bent.... If you see a rise and you cast to that fish with a fly rotation of royal wulff, GW, patriot, sucker spawn and san juan worm, you might as well spin fish. That is an angler that needs guidance, needs to learn how to observe feeding patterns and some basic insect identification instead of Ross junk at the fish. Will those flies catch fish? Sometimes. Hell, I watched my buddy catch 20+ fish on no more than 30-35 casts st the Tully. During a trico hatch, he was fishing a march brown emerger.
 
Regarding the tully, they are stockies. Yes, I do kind of look down at using SS and GW's, just because its playing on the fact that stupid stocked rainbows seem to like color. It's not imitating any real food that's out there. We agree on that. Like you said, it's the same as throwin a march brown to fish feeding on tricos. They are dumb and sometimes they eat it.

Where we disagree is that I don't associate the flies themselves with that situation. I associate them with situations where it is the natural food source. I associate march brown emergers with march brown hatches, not trico hatches, and it ain't so dumb to use the march brown emerger if a march brown hatch is happening or reasonably expected. I associate sucker spawn with suckers spawning. I associate green weenies with inchworms. I associate SJW with fish eating aquatic worms.

And yes, I have size 24 skinny green weenies in my box. I even try to float them sometimes. I've hackled a few to see if I could get them to float longer.

And I guess the first time you see large, wild brown trout in a true all-out feeding frenzy behind some spawning suckers, that sucker spawn fly ceases to be a "junk fly." The same would be true of the others.

The only flies I hold in the "junk" category are pellet flies and the like. They do imitate real food items, just not "natural" ones. It's like chumming. Knocks it a step down.
 
All of my GW are skinny and unweighted, usually on small hooks. If they are too long, I trim them. So.....matchin' the GW hatch!

I get your point Andy. You're right about the GW for many anglers. I also think Pcray is right, that there is a time and place for the fly and sometimes using it IS actually matching a "hatch" (not really a hatch, but you know what I'm saying). I have no problem with attractors and stimulators, and I can fully admit that "matching the hatch" is not my strength, nor do I believe it is needed in many situations. Presentation, on the other hand, is almost always an issue and that's what I've been focusing on lately.

As far as "you might as well be spin fishing", there are plenty of guys who would say the same thing about using any fly w/ a bead on it.
 
If anyone has good inchworm imitations, post 'em up.
 
krayfish wrote:
Pcray,
Have I used an Adams? No. A Wulff for trout? No. A White Wulff during the white fly hatch on the Susky? Yes....so I could see it amidst the billion naturals on the water. If there has been a San Juan worm on the line, it's because I took the nephews fishing. Bought them some "cheater" flies so they don't get discouraged too quickly. Hell, I got talked into using a prince nymph for the first time 2 years ago.

Troutbert,
Inchworms are green....but they are a 1/2 inch thick. Same goes for caddis larva. By your logic.....female models are women so all women I see are models.

Just grab a spinning rod and Berkley power bait and be done with it.

An inchworm 1/2" thick?
 
1/2" thick inch worm. LMAO
 

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What is that bug?

It's not an inchworm.
 
tomato caterpillar
 
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ive seen some of these buggers up to about 1.5 inches.
 
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Haven't read this book in twenty years, but, as I recall, Lafontaine (RIP) discusses the pros and cons of using various differently colored flies at different hours of the day. He based his conclusions on a great deal of scuba-based underwater empirical observations. My recollection of his findings boils down to this: Middle of the day, fishing under a green forested canopy - fish a green fly. Late afternoon as the sun is setting and the ambient light takes on an orange glow - fish an orange or red fly.
 
Back in the summer at the "Newbie Jam" on the LL I fished the afternoon thru the Heritage section esp. the "Kids Pool". Those trout had been fished over and pounded all day long. In about a half hour I caught a half dozen of those trout on my own beadhead "Micro" GW. Cathy G.(a member here) is my witness. She saw it with her own eyes. They(GW) work on stocked and wild fish both. It is one of my go-to flies for summer. Now if I could just get Shane to learn how to fish one! :lol:
 
WildTigerTrout wrote:
Now if I could just get Shane to learn how to fish one! :lol:

He's figured it out. I hooked him up with some honeybug inchworm chenille.

At the casting comp practice session up on Spring, he caught 27 fish. Old Lefty caught 4.

We've created a monster! :-o
 
Ed,

If you keep pumping up Shane, he'll start thinking he's good and he will enter fishing competitions. :lol:
 
Do they allow green weenies in those comps? If so, I'm in!
 
He told me they had 50+ fish on lower Beaverkill yesterday including a 22" brown and he had his azz handed to him by a bow that went ape.
 
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