Gonna be a buzzkill here for a moment….

You can always go back and read "Vanishing Trout" by Charles Lose.

I don't think that is "formulaic" and he doesn't push any products.

He wrote from his own real experiences and sincere thoughts.
 
Rest easy my friends, there's a report that there is more pot smoking than drinking going on now.
 
I have to wonder about the number of lives currently being ruined by sports betting ads. Alcohol advertising is a distant second.
 
barrybarry said:
I have to wonder about the number of lives currently being ruined by sports betting ads. Alcohol advertising is a distant second.
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Did anyone see the ad with the guy sitting on the commode making his picks?
 
Think it’s a younger male dominated sport- certainly the audience of most of what I’ve seen mentioned.

I too, don’t watch any of this stuff podcasts , YouTube’s or at least very little or much sports for that matter. I like Columbo, so I don’t get annoyed as much as I used to.

Anyway there was a time 20 years ago when I watched and read as much as I could get my hands on. I also partied like Keith Richards for a few decades , just ask my friends. But I don’t drink anymore either.

I’ve been told I’m critical of others but to me it’s easy to see people motivations. When I see Instagram which is the only other platform I look at regularly, things like wildfly to me it’s nothing more than # content # merch.

I’m certainly no great fly fisher , caster , tyer but some of the social media makes it look like these people invented fly fishing and have the audacity to sit there and preach to anglers while giving zero credit to others. I find that highly annoying.

In reality I’m getting old and out of the demo, old man yelling at clouds. My brother , 59 died of cirrhosis 2 months ago. Also, the older I get the more I guess I’m accepting of just how things are people love their consumption.
 
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It's an interesting observation. I sorta figured it just kinda went w/ the more "hipster" side of FFing? Like, the same bros who are REALLY REALLY REALLY into FFing right now are also the same dudes who are obsessed w/ IPAs and microbreweries and bourbon-and they're also the same bros who are more likely to read mags like The Drake. There is sorta a "type". I'm not knockin' it, that's the money! That's the fuel for the industry. Similar to how every B&M pipe shop has to get into the premium cigar game, because it's the cigar guys who keep them open.
 
barrybarry said:
I have to wonder about the number of lives currently being ruined by sports betting ads. Alcohol advertising is a distant second.
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This is a major problem. My high school kids talk nonstop about sports gambling. Between that and pornography, I think alcohol is a distant third. This next generation is in a lot of trouble. I am usually an optimist!
 
The_Sasquatch said:
It's an interesting observation. I sorta figured it just kinda went w/ the more "hipster" side of FFing? Like, the same bros who are REALLY REALLY REALLY into FFing right now are also the same dudes who are obsessed w/ IPAs and microbreweries and bourbon-and they're also the same bros who are more likely to read mags like The Drake. There is sorta a "type". I'm not knockin' it, that's the money! That's the fuel for the industry. Similar to how every B&M pipe shop has to get into the premium cigar game, because it's the cigar guys who keep them open.
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Bingo
 
As an angler I never understood the very specific association of drinking with fishing and that lack of understanding had nothing to do with the negative professional aspects hinted at below. Not by my intent, but from the time of childhood until the present none of my angling mentors or partners drank in the field either. The fishing was always satisfying enough, with or without catches, and the complete point of the excursion.

I greatly appreciated drinking behavior by others on ocean-going charters and head-boats, however. Ultimately the indulgence combined with the rolling seas often produced angler “chumming” and created voids along the rails giving me more room to play and land fish.

Don’t get me started on the problems I’ve witnessed or heard about as a professional along and on streams, rivers, and lakes.

I’m not a tea toter.
 
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Mike said:
As an angler I’ve never understood the association of drinking with fishing and that lack of understanding has nothing to do with the negative professional aspects hinted at below. The fishing is satisfying enough. I have, however, greatly appreciated drinking behavior and down right slobbery by others on ocean-going charters and head-boats. Ultimately the indulgence combined with the rolling seas has often produced angler “chumming” and has created nice voids along the rails giving me more room to play and land bigger fish.

And don’t get me started on the problems I’ve witnessed or heard about as a professional along and on streams, rivers, and lakes.
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The type of people that associate drinking with fishing would associate drinking with any activity they do. I play beer league hockey and it's very apparent why its called beer league. Guys drinking beer in the locker room before the game. I don't know how they do that, I would barf out there. I do enjoy a beer or 2 afterwards though.
 
dudemanspecial said:
The type of people that associate drinking with fishing would associate drinking with any activity they do. I play beer league hockey and it's very apparent why its called beer league. Guys drinking beer in the locker room before the game. I don't know how they do that, I would barf out there. I do enjoy a beer or 2 afterwards though.
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I once had a guy offer me a drink of some alcoholic beverage from a goat sack under his jersey while we were in the penalty box. No lie!
 
To me the crazy thing about modern days sports betting is you know people are just getting into massive credit card debt doing it. Anyone with a computer can do it. Previously you needed to know someone who had access to a book, and you had to make sure you weren't biting off more than you could chew if you lost. Your personal physical safety literally depended on it. There are none of those deterrents in the current day betting landscape
 
I love to fish, I like a few beers (sweetwater 420 :) among them) but the twain they do not meet. When I'm fishing I'm there to fish, the beer will wait until afterwards. One of the reasons I fish alone mostly is because I don't want to have to babysit anybody who might want to partake in both activities simultaneously. You couldn't pay me to go on a party boat fishing excursion either.

I read pretty much anything I can get my hands on fishing wise, magazines, blogs, a few different boards like this, I don't really pay the drink references much mind, too each his own.

Now the nonstop gambling ads in all sports on TV and radio is sickening. As are the mobile app casino game ads pegged towards those people that can't or don't want to go live to a casino.
 
bringthepain said:
To me the crazy thing about modern days sports betting is you know people are just getting into massive credit card debt doing it. Anyone with a computer can do it. Previously you needed to know someone who had access to a book, and you had to make sure you weren't biting off more than you could chew if you lost. Your personal physical safety literally depended on it. There are none of those deterrents in the current day betting landscape
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I went out with my friends on Good Friday during the NCAA tournament. That's all they were talking about and flipped when they found out their apps wouldn't work in Delaware. Did you see surveys on the massive number of athletes that have been threatened?
 
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I went out with my friends on Good Friday during the NCAA tournament. That's all they were talking about and flipped when they found out their apps wouldn't work in Delaware. Did you see surveys on the massive number of athletes that have been threatened?
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I dont pay much attention to sports anymore. Who is threatening athletes? Bettors?
 
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