fishing clubs

Some of those fees are outrageous. $70K to become a member, minus the annual dues? That would fund me annual trips to Alaska for the next 30 years or trips out west for a lifetime.
 
jayL wrote:
wsender,

I completely agree with what you're saying, but I can't resist the irony.

Carnegie was a member of this club.

See what happens, start a fishing club and destroy a town with a flood!

I just want to clear up the fact that I think the rich, or whomever, can do whatever they please, but the responsibility of wealth is a little deeper then 'should I get a gardener or a pool boy?'
 
So now the motives of people wanting to become rich need to be questioned? You sound like a .gov agent. Who cares if someone wants to be rich to smoke cigars with $100 bills or to donate money to childhood cancer?
 
GlockMan wrote:
So now the motives of people wanting to become rich need to be questioned? You sound like a .gov agent. Who cares if someone wants to be rich to smoke cigars with $100 bills or to donate money to childhood cancer?

Who cares, did you really just say that?! You're disgusting. I hope no one you know ever dies from cancer.

How is that dose of ignorance from your silver tower treating you?

:roll:
 
franklin wrote:
SRC used to have a WEB page with a list of members. That went away during the LJ access lawsuits. Should have saved a copy.

http://www.archive.org probably did.
 
Hatred is to big an emotion to waste on an individual or a group,as SMALL as it might be.How much money do you really need when kids can't get proper food or medical care,or a good quality education?Are we to end up like other areas wher the rich control every piece of water. or The Royal Forest?I guess Glock you beleive in the "Golden Rule"?
 
MKern wrote:
There's always Larry's Creek by Jersey Shore.

I know there's a long wait for a membership and they do stock, but it's a nice stream and has wild fish. Plus, they care about thier stream.
It would seem to me that if they truely cared about their stream, which has wild fish, they wouldn't stock it. Just a thought. ;-)
 
I can’t say I hate “the rich.” There are a lot of “rich” folks that respect and help others, respect the environment, and in turn I respect and admire them. What I don’t respect are people that drive a 8mph/gallon SUV because they can afford the gas, or build a 10,000 square foot house on ten acres with a pool, hot tub and fountains in the garden, and use 10x more electricity and water than anyone else, again, just because they can afford it.

The SRC / Homewaters club to me are part of the gas-guzzler set. They pitch in their money for exclusive rights to streams holding wild trout, stock it to the “gills” with big easy-to-catch fish, and claim they are preserving the streams and the trout for future generations. Future generations of what?!
 
GlockMan wrote:
Maybe they join so they don't have to fish with people who hate rich people...


When was the last time a poor person hired you?

Define poor.

I wouldn't consider myself rich, but I do hire people to do work for me from time to time.

And i certainly don't hate all rich bastards.;-)
 
I personally don't hate people because they are wealthy. I do hate people who are wealthy and are callous toward the poor. I also hate that our society encourages greed, encourages hedonism, and paints all feelings of compassion for the poor as a weakness. I also resent that people seeking mere comfort rather than luxury are struggling to pay taxes when the wealthy who can afford to pay more without any real serious skin off their backs fight tooth and nail against paying a little larger share.
 
JackM wrote:
I personally don't hate people because they are wealthy. I do hate people who are wealthy and are callous toward the poor. I also hate that our society encourages greed, encourages hedonism, and paints all feelings of compassion for the poor as a weakness. I also resent that people seeking mere comfort rather than luxury are struggling to pay taxes when the wealthy who can afford to pay more without any real serious skin off their backs fight tooth and nail against paying a little larger share.

I sense a subtle back stab to the Bush era tax cuts expiring perhaps? :hammer:
 
I guess you all ignored the question, what a bunch of boneheads.
 
Fishing clubs suck!! I fished through SRC's land on the Little J this past weekend. I know it is no big deal cause it is navigable and the club lost their case but it felt great just the same. I actually took the time to wander over to their side for a nature call. To many Pabst Blue Ribbon the night before. Tried to get over the high water mark to leave my mess :-D
 
I guess you all ignored the question, what a bunch of boneheads.

Post #1 = question
Post #2 = answer with opportunity for OP to further clarify

What part of the question was not answered you ignorant troll?
 
Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all ten comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this:

The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.

The fifth would pay $1.

The sixth would pay $3.

The seventh would pay $7.

The eighth would pay $12.

The ninth would pay $18.

The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.

So, that’s what they decided to do.

The ten men drank in the bar every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve. “Since you are all such good customers,” he said, “I’m going to reduce the cost of your daily beer by $20.”Drinks for the ten now cost just $80.

The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes so the first four men were unaffected. They would still drink for free. But what about the other six men - the paying customers? How could they divide the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his ‘fair share? They realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they subtracted that from everybody’s share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would each end up being paid to drink his beer. So, the bar owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man’s bill by roughly the same amount, and he proceeded to work out the amounts each should pay.

And so the fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% savings).

The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33%savings).

The seventh now pay $5 instead of $7 (28%savings).

The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% savings).

The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 ( 22% savings).

The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% savings).

Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued to drink for free. But once outside the restaurant, the men began to compare their savings.

“I only got a dollar out of the $20,”declared the sixth man. He pointed to the tenth man,” but he got $10!”

“Yeah, that’s right,” exclaimed the fifth man. “I only saved a dollar, too. It’s unfair that he got ten times more than I!”

“That’s true!!” shouted the seventh man. “Why should he get $10 back when I got only two? The wealthy get all the breaks!”

“Wait a minute,” yelled the first four men in unison. “We didn’t get anything at all. The system exploits the poor!”

The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up.

The next night the tenth man didn’t show up for drinks, so the nine sat down and had beers without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They didn’t have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill!

And that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors, is how our tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they might start drinking overseas where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.
 
Can we get the ADD version?

BTW, I suspect that the story shows a fundamental misunderstanding of how progressive taxation works. Those spirited conservative yarns usually do.
 
Looked like a Martingale betting system or something but again too long, didn't read. Chaz said only fishing clubs to be discussed. Conform.
 
I would love to be guys 1 through 5. Trust me I would not #OOPS# about free beer no matter who else got what discount. A lot more students would pass there economics classes if you were teaching them 😛int:
 
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