fishing clubs

jdaddy wrote:
I mean $10,000 gets you 21 days. You could probably do Montana and Alaska for a week each for $10k. The next year you could do Belize and Patagonia. Wouldn't be locked into a couple of PA streams and a few miles of CO.

Well said!
 
I liked wsenders and bikerfish's answers right off the bat and didn't read much further .........c'mon y'all do you reallly think we need this? After my experience at the spring jam i know the TRUTH IS OUT THERE....god bless PA , i will go back and read the rest but reluctantly.
 
jdaddy wrote:
my question is do they actually have any full members? Even if I had that kind of money to blow - I do not think I would be dumb enough pay 60k. I think they do more single day trips for the fools from NYC and DC and use the "exclusiveness" of 60k to get attention.

I don't know. The single day is not a bad value. Overnight in one of their cabins, full day access and full day guide for $475. I assume they do not allow back to backs on that deal because two days is like $1,700.
Jay and I were discussing and he pointed out that the pricing is not that crazy versus hiring a guide. $500 per day including a guide is high but not crazy high, except for a few issues. 1) who NEEDS a guide on these waters and 2) those beats would get kind of tiring. I mean $10,000 gets you 21 days. You could probably do Montana and Alaska for a week each for $10k. The next year you could do Belize and Patagonia. Wouldn't be locked into a couple of PA streams and a few miles of CO.

Home waters or SRC its still slimey Donnie Beaver and not something I'd want any part of. I guess you might get a chance to fish with the Becks though.
 
You usually have to be recommended by someone, and then be voted on a waiting list. If you find one with a short waiting list you doing good.
 
Home waters or SRC send me an invite almost every year. Don'tknow how or why, I usethe invite papers to warn others he's bad news for regular anglers like us and our children.
 
Paying to fish is a ridiculous notion, and in fact I think people who belong to these clubs are doing far more harm, than good, to the furthering of cold water preservation. The concept is shameful.

Part of the joy of fishing, for me, is being out in nature, with friends and making new friends, who have a common interest. I want to SHARE this experience with everyone I can. I want to show everyone the amazing beauty and wonder that this state, this nation, this world has to offer. I don't want to horde the beauty, having to shoo people off the land and get angry while I fish, like some little Schmiegel. Who would ever want that!

Fishing clubs are like country clubs for people who don't golf but fish. And having worked at a country club, the notion of country clubs make me vomit in my mouth a little bit.
 
$500 a day,two days amounts to air fare to New Zealand,from LA round trip.
Your right bikerfish,there are smart and dumb gazillionaries.As Ive said before,we're are all equal in the eyes of a fish. I'd rather fih a public stream and fool one than a pellet pond full of pigs.
 
Ditto. Just something great about fooling a "Wild" trout.
 
Maybe they join so they don't have to fish with people who hate rich people...


When was the last time a poor person hired you?
 
GlockMan wrote:
Maybe they join so they don't have to fish with people who hate rich people...


When was the last time a poor person hired you?

Sorry, didn't know 'our' stream wasn't good enough.... :roll:
 
GlockMan wrote:
It's not the streams.... it's the attitude of some people that despise the rich

Do you honestly get hassled on the stream for being too rich?
 
GlockMan wrote:
Maybe they join so they don't have to fish with people who hate rich people...


When was the last time a poor person hired you?

That is the worst defense for greed out there. Do you really think that "rich people" hire you for any other reason than to make themselves richer? The perfect example is the economy today. If we owed the rich for their generosity unemployment would not be 9.5%. There are plenty of rich people out there to hire us po people but they don't because the economy is down and they cannot make money off our backs.

I for one do not admire the rich for their generosity, And that goes for the generosity they have with sharing their private/closed fishing opportunities.
 
Me, no... I don't fish but from the tone of a number of posters they do not appear to like rich people
 
Maurice wrote:


When was the last time a poor person hired you?

That is the worst defense for greed out there. Do you really think that "rich people" hire you for any other reason than to make themselves richer?[/quote]

There are 2 reasons to hire people... one to make ones self richer and two, to do jobs that one does not want to do themselves.

Why on earth would someone hire an employee for any other reason? if wanting to get richer is greed then you my moderator are living in the wrong country.
 
GlockMan wrote:
Maurice wrote:


When was the last time a poor person hired you?

That is the worst defense for greed out there. Do you really think that "rich people" hire you for any other reason than to make themselves richer?

There are 2 reasons to hire people... one to make ones self richer and two, to do jobs that one does not want to do themselves.

Why on earth would someone hire an employee for any other reason? if wanting to get richer is greed then you my moderator are living in the wrong country.

No I am living in the right country, I just don't put wealth on the pedestal you do. I can appreciate the capitalist system for what it returns to me but I don't kid myself that I owe my employer or anyone with greater wealth more than what they compensate me for.

The conundrum with the economic class system is knowing what side you reside on.
 
GlockMan wrote:
Me, no... I don't fish but from the tone of a number of posters they do not appear to like rich people

Generally people don't like the attitudes associated with rich people. I know rich people who are truly great people. But the notion of the fishing club is SO counter productive to trying to improve the image of the wealthy.

If I had the cash, I would rather spend 50k insuring a sustainable fishery for generations to come rather then a self act like a membership to a fishing club.

"Surplus wealth is a sacred trust which its possessor is bound to administer in his lifetime for the good of the community."
Andrew Carnegie, the richest man to ever walk the face of the earth...
 
GlockMan wrote:

There are 2 reasons to hire people... one to make ones self richer and two, to do jobs that one does not want to do themselves.

Why on earth would someone hire an employee for any other reason? if wanting to get richer is greed then you my moderator are living in the wrong country.

I think the motive is the issue. Why do they want to become richer? To save more money for their child to go to college, not so greedy. To buy a second BMW while their employees have subpar, or no health coverage, possible issue here....

Also, the not wealthy hire people too. Non-profits employ people and these hiring employers make substantially less, and are probably not considered 'rich'.

Also, don't you dare tell anyone they're in the wrong country. As an American, I am proud to give back as much as I can through monetary contributions and service.
 
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