Snakehead Woes and bias

[Fredrick]

Pooppy if you watch the videos Odenkirk says they are not invasive, and there is still no scientific evidence stating they are committing any harm . This new set of videos has better and more current information with no spin offs .

 

[jifigz]

Fredrick wrote:
Pooppy if you watch the videos Odenkirk says they are not invasive, and there is still no scientific evidence stating they are committing any harm . This new set of videos has better and more current information with no spin offs .

I agree. Odenkirk seemed to portray 0 concern that they would ever impact the Potomac fishery in any negative manner. To Poopdeck's point though, angler harvest was also not touched upon even once during the videos. There really is no way to know how many snakeheads are being harvested and just how much angler harvest is impacting their numbers. Maybe it is a lot or maybe not. Either way they have certainly not proved detrimental thus far.

 

[sarce]

Doesn't change much on either side of the argument but Odenkirk is in VA, not MD.

Pressure/harvest is high in both states. There are also private ponds and other streams that the angling masses aren't aware of the snakehead presence yet, that aren't getting fished hard. Population exploded initially but then leveled off in these areas. I think the shallow, more isolated marsh areas see negative impacts, but not so much in the bigger river systems. THey can live in places too shallow for other predator fish like bass and pickerel.

 

[poopdeck]

My bad if I got the states mixed up. It's been a while since I researched snakeheads.

Fred, I will try to watch the videos but I'm generally tired of the same old stuff. I'm not an expert, I think I have established that through my rambling banter. Being a layperson I am forced to use common sense in my snakehead opinions. The fact remains that the kill on site order is still in effect. I assume this decision is based on the recommendations of experts like Odenkirk. I do recognize him as an expert. The experts say it's best, for now, to kill them. Who am I to argue against their recommendations?

 

[afishinado]

poopdeck wrote:
My bad if I got the states mixed up. It's been a while since I researched snakeheads.

Fred, I will try to watch the videos but I'm generally tired of the same old stuff. I'm not an expert, I think I have established that through my rambling banter. Being a layperson I am forced to use common sense in my snakehead opinions. The fact remains that the kill on site order is still in effect. I assume this decision is based on the recommendations of experts like Odenkirk. I do recognize him as an expert. The experts say it's best, for now, to kill them. Who am I to argue against their recommendations?

I checked on what was going on in VA and sure enough, the fisheries scientists recommend they be killed here > https://www.dgif.virginia.gov/fishing/snakehead/

 

[Fredrick]

You do realize the video you showed is from 2008 and outdated . Yes they want you to harvest but not illegal to realease the fish to where you caught it .

afishinado wrote:

poopdeck wrote:
My bad if I got the states mixed up. It's been a while since I researched snakeheads.

Fred, I will try to watch the videos but I'm generally tired of the same old stuff. I'm not an expert, I think I have established that through my rambling banter. Being a layperson I am forced to use common sense in my snakehead opinions. The fact remains that the kill on site order is still in effect. I assume this decision is based on the recommendations of experts like Odenkirk. I do recognize him as an expert. The experts say it's best, for now, to kill them. Who am I to argue against their recommendations?

I checked on what was going on in VA and sure enough, the fisheries scientists recommend they be killed here > https://www.dgif.virginia.gov/fishing/snakehead/

 

[Fredrick]

 

[Fredrick]

Part 5 Hibernation, Overland travel and attacks on people

https://youtu.be/X82uoubq4vg

 

[afishinado]

From PFBC site this morning >

https://twitter.com/hashtag/AquaticInvasiveSpecies?src=hash

 

[Fredrick]

My friend Stephen Turrisi from the sporting gentleman gave me this Snakehead, it’s one of the original snakeheads caught in FDR Park which is ground zero for the Snakeheads in the Delaware river drainage.

 

[Fredrick]

Last installment of the series episode 6 Harvest and Gamefish status

https://youtu.be/IPHbiD37p4k

 

[Fredrick]

 

[tomgamber]

i'm always skeptical when someone offers to tell me the "truth".

 

[poopdeck]

Well I haven't watch any of the posted videos because I know what the guy is going to say.

Hers Virginia and Odenkirks stance as of 5/2018. He has concerns. If looking for a positive he mentions sportfishing. His concerns are still damage to the eco system. I love the spin some can put on things.

https://www.dgif.virginia.gov/fishing/snakehead/

 

[Fredrick]

poopdeck wrote:
Well I haven't watch any of the posted videos because I know what the guy is going to say.

Hers Virginia and Odenkirks stance as of 5/2018. He has concerns. If looking for a positive he mentions sportfishing. His concerns are still damage to the eco system. I love the spin some can put on things.

https://www.dgif.virginia.gov/fishing/snakehead/

Johns not even quoted in the article just the video from 2008 . John has never said they may not cause harm in the future and has said multiple times that there is not evidence to date that they are causing any harm . 20 years of research is hard to debate against.