Im telling you, they just dont work for me. For example, I was fishing a local stream on Sunday for smallmouth. I was fishing my last clouser in my box(size 2 olive over white) and had 5 fish for the day. The 5th fish somehow tore out the olive tuft of deer hair, so I was left with half a clouser of krystal flash and white dear hair. I decided to try a black bugger, maybe size 6? 10 casts....nothing. Switched back to the wounded clouser and caught 6 more fish. I cant say Im unhappy the bugger doesnt work for me, because I hate tying the pattern. I am just not a fan of marabou, it gets everywhere and having dye on your fingers cant be good for your digestive health.