Steelhead, 2019-2020 Season

[moon1284]

I've never steelhead fished in PA, so I wasnt speaking for the erie tribs there (or ohio). Obviously sandbars across creek mouths are a problem.

I'll stand by my statement that I'm sure there are steelhead in the big wny (western new york) erie trib though.

I agree everyone should fish the ny Ontario tribs less crowds where I fish LOL. I lived in syracuse for almost 6 years. The last 3, I drove west and fished wny erie tribs or the niagara river exclusively. Not a big fan of almost all of the ontario tribs - and I'd say I've fished better than 80 percent of them between the Niagara river and the black river.

 

[FarmerDave]

moon1284 wrote:
I've never steelhead fished in PA, so I wasnt speaking for the erie tribs there (or ohio). Obviously sandbars across creek mouths are a problem.

I'll stand by my statement that I'm sure there are steelhead in the big wny (western new york) erie trib though.

I agree everyone should fish the ny Ontario tribs less crowds where I fish LOL. I lived in syracuse for almost 6 years. The last 3, I drove west and fished wny erie tribs or the niagara river exclusively. Not a big fan of almost all of the ontario tribs - and I'd say I've fished better than 80 percent of them between the Niagara river and the black river.

I apologize for my previous when I quoted you. I was speaking in general terms. But if you think of it, I was doing you a favor by steering people away. ;-)

I can't speak for the WNY tribs, but I have no doubt that there are some in the larger WNY tribs as you stated. Still not as many as usual.

There might even be some in the lower stretches of the Grand in Ohio.

But Ohio steelhead runs are better in Winter and Spring. That said, I always preferred fall.

1. Even though the fall runs are "supposedly" not as big compared to Winter and Spring in Ohio, they get a lot of strays from PA's stocking program. But because there are less fish, there are significantly less anglers as well.
2. I also preferred fishing the larger streams. More fun catching large fish in large water. Not a fan of targeting large fish in small pools with gin clear water. Cool to see and was fun as a beginner, but the novelty wore off. For the most part, you are not sight fishing in the larger waters.
3. More likely to find favorable river conditions in the fall compared to winter and especially Spring.

BTW, finally getting some cooler weather starting tomorrow and we are getting some rain.

 

[allthingsfishing]

We need a big rain to get some flow going in the Ohio tribs. The rain last night only bumped the flows up a little.

 

[gulfgreyhound]

This might help with WNY.
http://www.cattarauguscreekoutfitters.com/streamreports.html
or
https://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/9217.html
GG

 

[JackM]

Lots of cold water flowing to the lake on Elk Creek:
https://creek-cam-4.click2stream.com/

 

[drakeking412]

Elk is looking good. Too bad it's my girlfriends weekend off and were going to see the fall trees. At least she picked Little Pine. Someone please post a report if they go up this weekend.

 

[jifigz]

Yinz fellers can have the steelhead. I may go for a night or so this year but overall I don't get too excited about steelies or salmon or whatever..I'd rather stick around here and have the empty Juniata or Susky wide open and look for big bronzebacks, walleye, and musky. If I do make it to Erie I'm definitely harvesting some fish.

 

[skybay]

Yes Bruno, get nice steels and don't forget about some pretty browns

 

[Acristickid]

I wouldn’t bother with Erie until there is a significant precipitation.

For what is worth- you want to fish when the water is dropping and the Brandy gage is 180. If Erie is not what is used to be your gonna wanna go when conditions are very good.

 

[KevinHoss]

^this
The walnut gauge barely crossed 100cfs once in the past 30days

 

[CRB]

Fyi
Leaf hatch is occurring.

 

[wbranch]

I have been out once to the Cattaraugus with no success and last week to an Ohio stream. We did very well on Prince & stonefly nymphs, swung emerald shiner patterns and trout beads.

 

[CRB]

The need for snow tires will be with us soon.

 

[wbranch]

The need for snow tires will be with us soon.

Yes, I hate it! September and 3/4 of October were so dry that I didn't make my first trip until a week ago. Driving up from York as the cold and potential snow coming gets dicey. If I get stuck in Erie during a snow storm I might not be able to get home for an extra day or two. I have cold weather gear but it doesn't matter - once the air gets below 45 degrees my interest level drops down significantly. We are making what will likely be our last trip on Monday for 4 - 5 days.

 

[troutwilleatflies]

The SR in NY is 4000 at the dam,be careful out there.

 

[CRB]

int:

FYI:

Winter Storm Watch

URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
National Weather Service Buffalo NY
1157 AM EST Sun Nov 10 2019

NYZ019>021-110100-
/O.NEW.KBUF.WS.A.0011.191111T1600Z-191112T1100Z/
Chautauqua-Cattaraugus-Allegany-
Including the cities of Jamestown, Olean, and Wellsville
1157 AM EST Sun Nov 10 2019

...WINTER STORM WATCH IN EFFECT FROM MONDAY MORNING THROUGH LATE
MONDAY NIGHT...

* WHAT...Heavy snow possible, with some mixed precipitation near
the Pennsylvania state line. Total snow accumulations of 6 to 10
inches possible across northern areas where precipitation stays
all snow, 3 to 6 inches near the Pennsylvania state line. Ice
accumulations of up to a tenth of an inch possible across
southern areas.

* WHERE...The Western Southern Tier.

* WHEN...From Monday morning through late Monday night.

* IMPACTS...Travel conditions will deteriorate during the day
Monday, with the heaviest snowfall rates and worst travel from
late Monday afternoon through Monday night.

 

[CRB]

Now Erie County PA:



Winter Storm Watch

URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
National Weather Service Cleveland OH
352 PM EST Sun Nov 10 2019

...Winter Weather Expected Monday into Wednesday Morning...

.Precipitation will overspread the area on Monday as low pressure
tracks northeast up the Ohio Valley. Precipitation will transition
to snow earlier in the day in Northwest Ohio as cooler air is
wrapped into the back of the system. As the system continues
eastward, remaining areas will transition to snow on Monday
evening. Several inches of snow are expected across Northeast Ohio
and Northwest Pennsylvania Monday night. By Tuesday, lake effect
snows will develop across the primary snowbelt region. Lake effect
snow may be heavy at times and will continue into Wednesday
morning before flow shifts any lingering bands out over Lake Erie.


PAZ001>003-110500-
/O.NEW.KCLE.WS.A.0003.191111T2100Z-191113T1800Z/
Northern Erie-Southern Erie-Crawford-
Including the cities of Erie, Edinboro, and Meadville
352 PM EST Sun Nov 10 2019

...WINTER STORM WATCH IN EFFECT FROM MONDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH
WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON...

* WHAT...Heavy snow possible. Snowfall in excess of 8 inches are
possible. The highest accumulations will be focused where lake
effect bands persist.

* WHERE...Northern Erie, Southern Erie and Crawford counties.

* WHEN...From Monday afternoon through Wednesday afternoon.

* IMPACTS...Travel could be very difficult. The hazardous
conditions could impact the morning or evening commute.

* ADDITIONAL DETAILS...Temperatures will fall into the upper 20s
Monday night and remain nearly steady on Tuesday. Temperatures
will fall into the upper teens by Wednesday morning. Winds will
be out of the north and northwest at 10 to 15 mph with gusts to
25 mph, especially closer to Lake Erie.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

Monitor the latest forecasts for updates on this situation.

&&

$$

For more information from the National Weather Service visit
http://www.weather.gov/cle


Hazardous Weather Outlook

Hazardous Weather Outlook
National Weather Service Cleveland OH
438 AM EST Sun Nov 10 2019

OHZ010>014-020>023-031>033-089-PAZ001>003-110945-
Lorain-Cuyahoga-Lake-Geauga-Ashtabula Inland-Medina-Summit-Portage-
Trumbull-Wayne-Stark-Mahoning-Ashtabula Lakeshore-Northern Erie-
Southern Erie-Crawford-
438 AM EST Sun Nov 10 2019

This Hazardous Weather Outlook is for north central Ohio, northeast
Ohio and northwest Pennsylvania.

.DAY ONE...Today and tonight.

Hazardous weather is not expected at this time.

.DAYS TWO THROUGH SEVEN...Monday through Saturday.

Widespread accumulating snow is likely across the region beginning
as early as midday Monday or early afternoon for north-central Ohio
and by late afternoon elsewhere. The snow will continue into Monday
night across the area when it will then begin to transition into
lake effect snow across the primary and secondary snowbelts. The lake
effect snow will last through Wednesday morning. Additional, possibly
significant, snow accumulations are expected from lake effect.

Sharply colder arctic air will spread across the region resulting in
unseasonably cold temperatures for early November. The coldest air
will arrive Tuesday and Wednesday. Highs on Tuesday and Wednesday
will remain below freezing while lows on Wednesday morning will be in
the teens.

.SPOTTER INFORMATION STATEMENT...

Spotter activation is not expected at this

 

[drakeking412]

Can winter hold off please..... I haven't even made it up yet, tying flies next week so hopefully ill be up the following

 

[CRB]

We can only hope.