That's horse crap. Those reports should be open and available to us. They always were, and they always should be.
PFBC Old Website Data and Information
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wildtrout2
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We're living it and it's only going to get worse, I promise you. Wake up folks!
Yep - that's why I wrote this. I guess it's what some people want.
wildtrout2
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People need to be careful what they wish for...
No surprise there!
Do they also provide a list of those reports in association with that comment? If you say yes, I’ll be shocked.
flyguyfishing
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Reports and Strategic Plans
www.pa.gov
Search (using quotes) “pfbc annual report”
2000-2023 are there. It includes license sales.
Broodstock
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I will have to get back to you once I actually get someone on the phone. I have had just about the same luck calling as with the website.
wildtrout2
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No surprise there.
Did they ever publish all the electrofishing results, or even a substantial percentage of them?
I thought they just published a very small percentage of them, probably less than 1 percent.
And I don't think they ever published which streams are Class B, Class C, Class D,, or the biomass, except for the wilderness streams, which are a very small percentage of the trout stream mileage.
wildtrout2
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I think I recall it being a small percentage of them, but they were still interesting.
That’s largely correct with the exception that the Biologist Reports may have in some cases included the biomass estimates, which could then have been compared with the biomass ranges associated with each class. Those ranges had in my recollection been published at times. Additionally, to make it easier some reports may have stated the classification associated with the reported biomasses.
Thanks, but I was referring to the old Biologist Reports. Apparently I didn’t make that clear enough. Despite their age, some anglers here apparently found them to be interesting references.Reports and Strategic Plans
Search (using quotes) “pfbc annual report”
2000-2023 are there. It includes license sales.
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I'll do some more searching. I had found some of Biology Reports as mentioned, but the rest of the electroshocking reports seem to be not added. There are plenty of interactive maps and pdf's of different trout streams, but that's about it. The new PFBC is a pretty shallow pool.
BTW for new anglers, there were two different conversations happing here. The OP is about PFBC reports from there older websites. The second conversation came up about the US Federal USGS Water Gauges. Two different organizations, but some similar issues as mentioned.
BTW for new anglers, there were two different conversations happing here. The OP is about PFBC reports from there older websites. The second conversation came up about the US Federal USGS Water Gauges. Two different organizations, but some similar issues as mentioned.
CRB
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Dave thank you. 👍
A great deal of information disappeared.
I hope trough yours and our efforts will help make these reports and information ,more easily available.
🙂
A great deal of information disappeared.
I hope trough yours and our efforts will help make these reports and information ,more easily available.
🙂
dudemanspecial
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My uneducated guess is that as cyber security gets more expensive, costs must be cut to make up for it. Older web platforms need to be upgraded and dumming down the information you put on there reduces expense. Also someone has to be paid to sort through the information and possibly do some major format reworking to get it online. Maybe the people responsible for that were determined to be used in other capacities. Maybe they outsourced that work and decided to trim the fat.
Again I have no real knowledge here, but I can't imagine budget concerns not playing the major role.
