orvis rods, are they good?

[troutbumm]

BrandonMH - Jdaddy has a good read on it. They call it fast action, and it is certainly faster than my old rod, but it is not super fast action. I never lay out that much line. Most of my fishing is mountain streams with lots of cover and canopy. I love the rod (4wt, 7'6"), but am comparing it to a much older rod with old technology.

 

[pcray1231]

I own a few Orvis rods, and have never had one fail for lack of backbone. And I push rods to the breaking point.

To clarify, I don't mean they actually break. I mean they lack power. When I try to get the line speed up, the rods just don't got it in em.

I never lay out that much line. Most of my fishing is mountain streams with lots of cover and canopy.

I rarely lay out much line either. But its the cover/canopy situations where I wanna throw a tight loop with a short stroke. In the open, they're alright.

 

[afishinado]

Rod preference is a matter of personal choice. I've always been a Sage rod fan and also liked a few rods in the Loomis line. While I agree some of the older model Orvis rods were underwhelming to me since I was a faster rod guy, the new model Orvis rods (Helios and Hydros) are great casting/fishing rods. The "Tipflex" models are are amazing light in weight and feel, while the "Midflex" models are moderately fast for those FFers that prefer a slightly slower action.

Again, rod choice is based on personal preferences, so cast all types and brands of rods until you find one that suits your casting and fishing.

 

[troutslammer]

a friend of mine uses sage rods and he can throw all his line and well into the backing , another friend of mine uses orvis rods and guess what he can throw all his line and well into the backing , it isn't the rods fellas ...get real !!!!!!!

 

[skiltonian]

T-slam - so your Sage buddy can get half way into the backing and your Orvis Buddy can only get well into the backing - I'd say the Sage gives your Sage Buddy the advantage.

 

[troutslammer]

sorry , i edited the post , its not the tool its the user ! not saying it is important to cast a whole line and i for one can not do it but both rods are very capable of the same things in the right hands

 

[troutbumm]

A good friend of mine always said, "it is a poor craftsman that blames the tools"

 

[jayL]

I've also always been told that a good craftsman uses good equipment.

 

[jdaddy]

A good craftsman is measured in his ability to correct/cover up mistakes.

 

[Fredrick]

I was told that a good tool can cover up a poor craftsmen :-D

 

[gfen]

Craftsman has a lifetime warranty.

 

[jdaddy]

St. Nick is likely the ultimate craftsman. I found this out by watching a movie, 47 times so far this holiday season with my kids.

 

[gfen]

One of our kids made us watch Rudolph constantly. Over and over and over again. And read the book before bed. And sometimes during the day. And sometimes during the day whil ethe movie was on.

 

[jdaddy]

gfen wrote:
One of our kids made us watch Rudolph constantly. Over and over and over again. And read the book before bed. And sometimes during the day. And sometimes during the day whil ethe movie was on.

Did they get scared by Bumble the Snow Monster each and every time?

 

[gfen]

No, he loves the snow monster immensely. It was easy to pick the next tattoo because of that fact.

 

[troutbumm]

That is also true Frederick. I do woodworking as a hobby and am shocked at the in entions, marketing, and resulting sales of products to eliminate the need to learn the craft.

 

[jdaddy]

troutbumm wrote:
That is also true Frederick. I do woodworking as a hobby and am shocked at the in entions, marketing, and resulting sales of products to eliminate the need to learn the craft.

Are you suggesting that digital gauge planers, Compucarves and Festool is killing fine wood working? If you are you are right! LOL!

 

[ratgunner]

rhbuilds wrote:
are orvis rods worth the money? they have a deal now for hydros rod and reel $495.

I asked the same question before I bought mine.IMO Yes. I bought a 7'9" Far and Fine 5wt. Orvis rod about twenty years ago and it's still in great shape and performs like new and I used it alot. I've since moved toward a little faster action in my rod preference so it doesnt see much use anymore.

 

[bilg25]

I'm partial to the Orvis brand themselves but I do like Sage and Redington and Winston as well. I have an article in the gear section titled the 5wt shoot out. A site reviews rods and explains how you really dont need to spend top dollar to get a good rod. Just remember a lot of advertising and such goes into that $750 dollar price point on the high end rods.

 

[ratgunner]

pcray1231 wrote:

i also don't go out to the stream with the mind set i am gonna streamer fish all day

I sometimes do, depends on conditions. But situations where you know what you're gonna be doing are easy, you take the tool best for the job. Many rods are specialists, excelling in some types of fishing but being terrible in others. Others take the jack fo all trades approach.

some water is nymph , some is streamer , some is dry

This is perhaps more common for me, and much more demanding on a rod. A good rod must be able to load well at close distances and deliver precise, delicate casts, AND it must have the backbone and reserve power to throw tight loops when called upon, deliver long smooth casts and sling lead. I have specialist rods and do use them. But my main use rods are the jack of all trade types.


Heres my take on it......
I prefer a faster action than my old Orvis has too,most of the time. However for small streams it is nice to fish with. If I want a tighter loop,wich is most of the time on a small atream,I will just shorten the casting stroke and shoot that line. Ofcourse I'm not slamming big heavy Clouser minnows on these small streams. :-D Point is for the OP it depends on what you plan to do with that rod thats why they make so many diff. actions. But if you can cast well you can make do with a buggy whip or a pool cue.