Fishing during rifle seasons

[jifigz]

Dear Tim Murphy,

I'm aware that the Monday opener didn't start until 1963. I'd say the rural economy survived on agriculture and logging, the same as it is today.

But even way back when hunters would supplement local economies. Down state hunters would rent rooms from the locals up north. I remember my great-grandfather talking of driving to Potter County in the 1940's or 30's and renting a room. Even as far back as just after the War between the States people would ride the trains from the cities and rent rooms from the locals to hunt. One example that comes to mind is a group from Lancaster would ride the train to McVeytown and rent off a farmer who's land is now part of the Tuscarora State Forest. That Lancaster group then started the oldest deer camp on the state forest.

Since I'm a local, I'd be curious which camp you're talking about. Mcveytown is only 3 miles up the road, and Tuscarora SF is only about 5 miles away.

 

[BrookieChaser]

Since I'm a local, I'd be curious which camp you're talking about. Mcveytown is only 3 miles up the road, and Tuscarora SF is only about 5 miles away.

PM sent.

 

[Broodstock]

I don't hunt. But I do think if you fire a gun at something, you should be quite certain it isn't a human being.

I agree with this. If you have to see orange to decide not to shoot, you are doing it wrong.

 

[BradFromPotter]

The week of new moons is the most popular, but the week prior to a new moon can be quite busy as well. Throw in the three or four massive solar storms we had this year, plus Tsuchinshan-Atlas, the perseids, a handful of super moons, Black Forest star party, and that concert they have there. More often than not there’s a large number of people there.

There must be a reason they are reworking the parking situation there right? I bet it isn’t because of lack of visitation.

wish the old airport was still there!

 

[Cznymph]

wish the old airport was still there!

The stargazing field is infinitely better for the economy and local residents than the airport.

 

[PSUhorty]

The stargazing field is infinitely better for the economy and local residents than the airport.

No one said it wasn't.

 

[BradFromPotter]

The stargazing field is infinitely better for the economy and local residents than the airport.

Don't care. What economy is it benefiting? Not Galeton. How does it benefit the local residents?

Bring back the airport!

 

[Cznymph]

Don't care. What economy is it benefiting? Not Galeton. How does it benefit the local residents?

Bring back the airport!

For starters let’s look at the park itself.

There are park employees paid to maintain the park, a park manager, clerical staff, and park educators. Then there is local business that support the park, the company that pumps the outhouses, the company that delivers the drinking water and the trash company.

There’s a food truck up there on busy weekends owned by a local family, and another couple of local businesses that offer private star gazing within the park, and also astrophotography workshops. In additional there’s a handful of private stargazing experiences off site that are locally owned and piggyback on the cherry springs interest.

Let’s not forget the local resturants, and lodging. The Rough Cut Lodge is constantly adding on every time I drive by, and is always packed. How many of these star gazers are renting canoes bikes from Pine Creek Outfitters for a during the day activity?

Short term rental business is booming. Many camps are now being rented as Air BnB’s. Frosty Hollow Bed and Breakfast has a handful of additional properties near the park. Susquehannock Lodge is darn near always full.

So yeah. It’s most definitely benefiting the economy and at a much much higher level than the airport ever did.

 

[Roofin' Trouter]

I agree with this. If you have to see orange to decide not to shoot, you are doing it wrong.

Yes but what happens when the bullet passes through or misses the target? This is something I consider when picking out stands.
I have had some real good days on the water during rifle season. My favorite spots that time of year are in " safety zones" but still rock an orange beanie walking to the crick.

 

[JackM]

Yes but what happens when the bullet passes through or misses the target? This is something I consider when picking out stands.
I have had some real good days on the water during rifle season. My favorite spots that time of year are in " safety zones" but still rock an orange beanie walking to the crick.

Again, I don't hunt, but I thought you are also supposed to look through/beyond your target. Prudence probably suggest non-hunters wear some orange when on hunting grounds.

 

[Roofin' Trouter]

You are definitely supposed to look beyond your target. Learning that is part of hunter safety course. With that said, what happens to a bullet when it passes through meat and hits a rock? Is it possible the bullet breaks in to fragments and ricochetes?
For what it' s worth, the closest I've came to being a victim of a hunting accident was in York Co. while installing a new roof. No idea how far the bullet traveled only that it whizzed pretty close to me, hitting a tree maybe 6 ft from the edge I was installing metal drip edge on.

 

[jifigz]

You are definitely supposed to look beyond your target. Learning that is part of hunter safety course. With that said, what happens to a bullet when it passes through meat and hits a rock? Is it possible the bullet breaks in to fragments and ricochetes?
For what it' s worth, the closest I've came to being a victim of a hunting accident was in York Co. while installing a new roof. No idea how far the bullet traveled only that it whizzed pretty close to me, hitting a tree maybe 6 ft from the edge I was installing metal drip edge on.

When my dad was fixing up a house on the farm where the WW Jam is hosted, the white cottage that they rent out had a hole in the upstairs. It came through the wall and the new OSB on the inside. It was during hunting season, and the only thing we could figure was that it was a stray bullet from the other side of the river.

 

[poopdeck]

A few years a go a young man was shot and killed at lake nockamixon. He was sitting on the bank with his girlfriend. The hunter could only see the top of the man’s head and mistook him as a small mammal. The hunter was sentenced to 7 to 20 years for involuntary manslaughter. Im wearing orange when in areas where hunting is permitted and occurring.

 

[dc410]

I actually work in the woods and have for the past 35 years. Sometimes on public land - sometimes on private land. I always wear blaze orange on my head, chest and back while working during any hunting seasons (spring or fall). I would recommend anybody fishing during current hunting seasons to do the same because it just kind of makes sense.

 

[riverwhy]

For starters let’s look at the park itself.

There are park employees paid to maintain the park, a park manager, clerical staff, and park educators. Then there is local business that support the park, the company that pumps the outhouses, the company that delivers the drinking water and the trash company.

There’s a food truck up there on busy weekends owned by a local family, and another couple of local businesses that offer private star gazing within the park, and also astrophotography workshops. In additional there’s a handful of private stargazing experiences off site that are locally owned and piggyback on the cherry springs interest.

Let’s not forget the local resturants, and lodging. The Rough Cut Lodge is constantly adding on every time I drive by, and is always packed. How many of these star gazers are renting canoes bikes from Pine Creek Outfitters for a during the day activity?

Short term rental business is booming. Many camps are now being rented as Air BnB’s. Frosty Hollow Bed and Breakfast has a handful of additional properties near the park. Susquehannock Lodge is darn near always full.

So yeah. It’s most definitely benefiting the economy and at a much much higher level than the airport ever did.

I never knew there was an airport in Cherry Springs but then again, I have never been to that area. Did local people fly into their homes or deer camp? Or was it mainly for sightseeing? What year did it close and why?

 

[Cznymph]

I never knew there was an airport in Cherry Springs but then again, I have never been to that area. Did local people fly into their homes or deer camp? Or was it mainly for sightseeing? What year did it close and why?

The term airport is used loosely.

Camp Elliot was a quasi-CCC type of program operated by the state and they constructed the grass landing strip for emergency use in the mid 1930s.

There was Saladae’s flying school there for some time, until the elder Saladae went to prison for murder in the 50s. His son took it over at some point and it existed until the early 2000’s. They offered flying lessons and airplane rides. It was used very sparingly. In 2007 the bureau of state parks expanded the astronomy observation field to that side of the road, on what was the grass landing strip.