Donegal Spring Fish Kill

Why not just transplant wild trout to help speed up the recovery process as opposed to just cramming it with stockers once the source of the pollution has been identified and steps have been taken to prevent future recurrences?
 
Transplanting wild trout is not the answer. You're diluting the stream bred genetics of the population that is left.

This is a blessing in disguise. Let it go completely (no stocking whatsoever) and let nature take care of it. The wild trout will repopulate the stream. We've seen it on many streams considered dead in PA. Spring being the most popular.

This would be a good case study for the PFBC.
 
Official statement from the DFCA -

A major fish kill occured on the Donegal Creek during the weekend of April 26th, which affected both wild and stocked trout, other species of fish and aquatic life. The Donegal Fish and Conservation Association has been a steward for this watershed for over five decades and will continue to dedicate itself to the stream’s restoration to maintain a vibrant watershed. The DFCA will continue to assess the situation and communicate with state agencies, riparian landowners, and the local community. It is the position of the DFCA to refrain from speculating on the cause of the fish kill. The DFCA encourages anglers, sportsmen, and the community to allow our state agencies to do their work. Donegal Fish and Conservation Association is proud to work alongside property owners and values their partnership in maintaining a healthy watershed. Please visit our website, www.donegalfish.weebly.com, for more information on the work done by DFCA. Email club President Brian Cunningham at donegalfish@gmail.com with any questions, comments, or concerns.
 
Just read an updated article on Lancaster Newspapers. Still spewing the "30 rainbows" bullcrap. Why? Why is the Fish Commission hiding the true extent of the kill?
 
What I read stated "including 30 stocked rainbows." It did not say only 30 stocked rainbows.

I'm also positive it's the news cherry picking what someone actually said or an unknowing editor removing words to get the article to fit in the space Intended.

It's unfortunate but the news is the last place to go when you want accurate unbiased vetted and investigated news. Now if your looking for catch phrases and hysteria, the news is a perfect place to get your news. I would listen to what the eye witnesses are saying not what someone talking to the witnessses are saying.
 
BrookieChaser wrote:
Transplanting wild trout is not the answer. You're diluting the stream bred genetics of the population that is left.

This is a blessing in disguise. Let it go completely (no stocking whatsoever) and let nature take care of it. The wild trout will repopulate the stream. We've seen it on many streams considered dead in PA. Spring being the most popular.

This would be a good case study for the PFBC.

Unfortunately since it sounds like they were stocking the stream before you can bet they will stock it after, probably more. I still struggle with PA stocking over good wild populations but I shouldn't hijack the thread.
 
poopdeck wrote:
What I read stated "including 30 stocked rainbows." It did not say only 30 stocked rainbows.

I'm also positive it's the news cherry picking what someone actually said or an unknowing editor removing words to get the article to fit in the space Intended.

It's unfortunate but the news is the last place to go when you want accurate unbiased vetted and investigated news. Now if your looking for catch phrases and hysteria, the news is a perfect place to get your news. I would listen to what the eye witnesses are saying not what someone talking to the witnessses are saying.

You may be right. I reread the WITF article, which is where I first saw the "30 stocked rainbows", it is now a direct quote saying the same thing, "among those that perished were apparently 30 stocked rainbows..."

That's a tad different than the original article, which made it sound like it was, in essence, the death of 30 stocked rainbows, and originally, before Derek Eberly contacted them, the article said it was ONLY the trout that were dead.
 
It's impossible for the media or general public to comprehend the magnitude of a widespread fish kill. As anglers, we understand the wide-reaching consequences much better. I walked .85 miles of the creek and the amount of dead fish I saw was heartbreaking. From the confluence of the Donegal and Chiques to the Musser Run spring house is about 5 miles. I saw a dead sucker 3.25 miles from the confluence, so one can reasonably extrapolate how significant the kill actually was.

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Have they ever indicated when they will be able to tell the public what happened to cause it?
 
krayfish2 wrote:
Have they ever indicated when they will be able to tell the public what happened to cause it?

I heard on the radio today (and the source appears to be https://lancasteronline.com/news/local/test-results-from-donegal-creek-site-of-fish-kill-could/article_4ee4de60-6b82-11e9-8e1a-8ba47a49dbe8.html) that water samples are being tested, and results could take up to 30 days.

I assume that once they know what caused it and what the source was, they'll notify the public. It takes time for test results, time to quantify the magnitude of the kill (in one case, where I know a farmer that had a manure spill, the fine was calculated on the inventory of dead fish and aquatic life that they counted) and time to properly investigate what happened.

Regarding stocking, two entities stock the stream - Donegal Fish and Conservation Association (DFCA) is a co-op nursery, and PFBC. I don't think the PFBC allocation is a large one, possibly towards the size of their minimum of 300 fish, and it is only in the FFO stretch and pre-season. I don't know how many fish the DFCA stocks, but some of that was in the open water (which years ago was PFBC stocked). I think someone had posted, or I talked to an angler streamside this year, that no or minimal DFCA stocking occurred this year, possibly due to last year's flooding damaging the nursery.

A few years ago, Donegal was one of the experimental streams that the PFBC used for stocking rainbow fingerlings. They heldover poorly (although that first fish that wgmiller posted sure looks like a wild fish), but during the shocking to record rainbow retention is when a Class A wild brown population was discovered. For a bit, anyway... Because the resurvey didn't turn up the same biomass. But wild browns were definitely present - wgmiller's pics show what I think is only one stocker brown, against the rest being wild fish.

There's certainly one, or many, PhD projects that could come out of this stream.
 
Salmonid - spot on. Not much to say other than what you did. The small rainbows were definitely wild. Whether they were remnants of the fingerling stocking program or from stream stocked breeding activity is unknown.
 
Mike - I dug back through my archives and this is one of the suspected wild bows I mentioned. I caught several this size, which was probably four inches or so. Wild? Perhaps. I believe this was before the fingerling project kicked off, and they had clipped adipose fins anyway.

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Yes, I would have called that a wild fish as long as Vibert Boxes were not in use and as long as no "runts" or fingerling escapees were stocked by a co-op along with their normal size fish.
 
DEP is in the process of running water quality tests, etc. I'm not sure if any fish were collected to be examined or not. Being nestled in a heavy agriculture area, well...
 
Since the PA Fish Comm is such a political organization these days I hope someone is looking into it independently. After some of the lousy misinformation I saw coming from their spokespeople via media right after event I am not exactly confident in any verdict they might offer.

It is hard for me to believe that in this day and age it takes this long. I do believe by now they know the cause.

 
It's old news at this point, that I forgot to post, but they don't know why.

https://www.wgal.com/article/dep-cause-of-fish-kill-along-donegal-creek-in-lancaster-county-cant-be-determined/27586188
 
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