Crappie time!

Went out for a short trip after I made the post. Once I dialed in the right retrieve it was on. Bright sunshine and late morning, didn't matter; left them biting. Local guy was spin fishing right next to me and got skunked while a landed at least a half doz. Short slow strips and the fish were picking it up on the low point of the drop. Good fun and I educated a bunch of fish for another day.
 
I went out just for an hour and a half to a nearby lake. I landed maybe 15 crappie, 2 bluegill, and one beautiful, big and healthy looking chain pick. The pickerel broke my line at the boat as I was attempting to grab it. He was a beast, though. I had intentions of keeping fish, but all crappie were just shy of 9". I hate panfish enhancement regs.

Disclaimer: I was using a spinning rod.
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Sounds like a fun trip! Glad you got out. I think the crappie fishing is just starting to heat up. I’m sure there are better days ahead!
Good luck!
~5footfenwick
 
This warm weather has got the crappie in tight (pre spawn) at least here in the SE. Easy fishing close to home; mostly a matter of figuring out what retrieve they want on a given day. I usually prefer a jig style fly under an indicator unless they are really aggressive.
Nice!

You ever try a balanced leech style under an indy? They might be even more effective when fish start to suspend up in the summer
 
... and one beautiful, big and healthy looking chain pick. The pickerel broke my line at the boat as I was attempting to grab it. He was a beast, though.
Back in the day, me and my buds used to catch a lot of pickerel in Shohola Creek, after it leaves Shohola Lake. It was great fun, with some good size fish. We spin fished with yellow Garcia Abu Reflex spinners, which they couldn't resist. I think they might have thought they were small yellow perch. Don't know if they're still in there like they were, it's been many years.
 
Had a great day on a public lake that I'm not really familiar with. Last trip I didn't have my fly rod but this time I fished it exclusively. Caught 4 nice crappie and a couple smaller ones, plus a small bass and some gills, one measured out at 10"; a pb on the fly rod. My buddy caught the skunk with spin gear. Jig fly with Maribou tail and pearl estaz body, and a pink BH under an indicator. Conditions were tough with scattered showers and gusty winds. Biggest crappie was 11" and I let that one go along with some gills and bass. Mid morning til about noon.https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=29464358846542300&set=pcb.29464359479875570
 
. I hate panfish enhancement regs.
You can blame me for those, specifically crappie, which is where they all started. The origin was the need for such regs at Blue Marsh Res, given the wildly fluctuating year class strengths and heavy angling pressure. The purpose was to better allow good year classes to carry the fishery for longer periods of time until the next good class or series of moderate year classes was produced. Adding to the year class problem was the likely competition between a very large alewife population and YOY crappie for the zooplankton forage base. Favoring the reg’s success was 1) the rapid growth rates of white crappie with assistance from a large population of spotfin shiners and 2) no exceedingly high natural mortality (If natural mortality is high and growth rates slow, regs designed to allow fish to live longer/get larger won’t work. Freestone brookie anglers might want to think about that potential conundrum). Unanticipated was that the WC would get as large as they did in good quantities and that a moderate number of BC would also grow to large sizes. BC had formerly rarely exceeded 9-10” and the vast majority were around 7-8”. The BC population characteristics were such that John Soldo and I designed the reg with only the WC in mind.

As for the bluegill reg, I supported a higher length limit, but strongly opposed the eventual 7” limit because in my view it put the PFBC Fisheries Management Division in a position of “managing for mediocrity.” It also was inconsistent with the need for large male BG in populations in order to prevent a very common cause of stunting in high harvest BG fisheries…a lack of large males whose presence behaviorally prevents most smaller males from maturing. When small males mature they stunt.

As for the yellow perch portion of the reg, I felt it was unnecessary. Other than at Erie, YP are pretty much self-managing because while big catches occur some days, such days are rarely the rule. I would add that when the F Mgmt Division evaluated the regs through intensive trap netting surveys across multiple years, angler interviews, and creel surveys only the crappie reg was highly successful. The BG reg was somewhat successful. The YP reg was not beneficial.

And who said I don’t support the use of special regs?😉 Let me be clear once again…I don’t support their use when they aren’t necessary, including applying them just because someone or some group wants them.
 
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I went out just for an hour and a half to a nearby lake. I landed maybe 15 crappie, 2 bluegill, and one beautiful, big and healthy looking chain pick. The pickerel broke my line at the boat as I was attempting to grab it. He was a beast, though. I had intentions of keeping fish, but all crappie were just shy of 9". I hate panfish enhancement regs.

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Dear jifigz,

I had high hopes of airing up my new inflatable fishing kayak and getting out today, but it rained here until 1:00 PM and I had someone coming by to buy a lawn tractor that was in my garage that hadn't run in 6 years. The freed-up space was worth not fishing.

My buddy was going to go to Little Buffalo, but he bagged it too. He was there last weekend and with water temps in the mid 50's nothing was happening. He and his brother fished for 4 hours with 3 fish between them.

If it's nice and we get lawn mowed and the Winter's brush piles carefully burned I may try the new kayak tomorrow. The wind is supposed to be brutal though. At the very least I will air it up and check it out.

Regards,

Tim Murphy 🙂
 
You can blame me for those, specifically crappie, which is where they all started. The origin was the need for such regs at Blue Marsh Res, given the wildly fluctuating year class strengths and heavy angling pressure. The purpose was to better allow good year classes to carry the fishery for longer periods of time until the next good class or series of moderate year classes was produced. Adding to the year class problem was the likely competition between a very large alewife population and YOY crappie for the zooplankton forage base. Favoring the reg’s success was the rapid growth rates of white crappie with assistance from a large population of spotfin shiners. Unanticipated was that the WC would get as large as they did in good quantities and that a moderate number of BC would also grow to large sizes. BC had formerly rarely exceeded 9-10” and the vast majority were around 7-8”. The BC population characteristics were such that John Soldo and I designed the reg with only the WC in mind.

As for the bluegill reg, I supported a higher length limit, but strongly opposed the eventual 7” limit because in my view it put the PFBC Fisheries Management Division in a position of “managing for mediocrity.” It also was inconsistent with the need for large male BG in populations in order to prevent a very common cause of stunting in high harvest BG fisheries…a lack of large males whose presence behaviorally prevents most smaller males from maturing. When small males mature they stunt.

As for the yellow perch portion of the reg, I felt it was unnecessary. Other than at Erie, YP are pretty much self-managing because while big catches occur some days, such days are rarely the rule. I would add that when the F Mgmt Division evaluated the regs through intensive trap netting surveys across multiple years, angler interviews, and creel surveys only the crappie reg was highly successful. The BG reg was somewhat successful. The YP reg was not beneficial.
Dear Mike,

I don't have a scientific background to draw on, but I am kind of amazed that most lakes in the southern half of PA that I am familiar with have stunted panfish populations. There are exceptions but by and large 90% of the panfish I catch are the size of credit cards!

When I lived in the Southern Tier of NY the pan fishing was much better. Likewise, the lakes on the Northern Tier of PA also had much better sized panfish. Like I said, it's just anecdotal, but on many of those lakes many people kept everything with 2 eyes and butthole, regardless of the size. They also typically had much more fishing pressure during the Winter through the ice, both in NY and upstate PA.

Maybe convincing people to actually harvest fish would help improve the overall population and size distribution. I'm one to talk, I almost never keep a fish. Maybe I need to practice what I'm preaching instead of tossing everything back?

Regards,

Tim Murphy 🙂
 
EVen with the wind, there was a good number of bank fisherman at sayers tonight. I was out with my kids and we had a couple bursts of 3 fish on at once that was a tease of what's to come. Mostly small fish, but a few 10in crappie, a big blue gill and some perch are enough for fish nuggets tomorrow.

The panfish regs, while a pain to remember, do seem to be working for crappie at sayers.
 
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EVen with the wind, there was a good number of bank fisherman at sayers tonight. I was out with my kids and we had a couple bursts of 3 fish on at once that was a tease of what's to come. Mostly small fish, but a few 10in crappie, a big blue gill and some perch are enough for fish nuggets tomorrow.

The panfish regs, while a pain to remember, do seem to be working for crappie at sayers.
I was very impressed with Sayers last year. It used to be filled with dinks, but now I have a hard time finding them under 10". I wish Colyer had the same regs that Sayers has.
 
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