Any PFBC Guys Around

[tomgamber]

Perhaps you'd have more luck using these resources than a fly fishing message board.

PADEP
RA-epcontactus@state.pa.us

Altoona District Office
Water Supply Supervisor: Alice Kline
Serving: Bedford, Blair, Fulton, Huntingdon, Mifflin
3001 Fairway Drive
Altoona, PA 16602
Phone: 814-946-7290

PAFBC
http://fishandboat.com/inform.htm

Let us know how you make out.

 

[troutbert]

tomgamber wrote:
That sucks. What year? I'd say it has recovered well, considering.

January 1996

 

[tomgamber]

Thanks...Lj has quipped snippets of slightly discernible bits about this over the years but nothing of substance. I can at least look it up now. Frankly, it sounds like a damn shame but I'd say it fished extraordinarily well, considering.

 

[littlejuniata]

For readers

The Little Juniata today nearly 15 years later is still only half the stream it was before the macro kill.

Trout down at least 20 percent in weight and power

No Green Caddis

No Green Drakes

No crayfish

Anyone who knows anything about the river or fly fishing would know that

that takes care of the "rationalization" experts

Sulphurs and Grannoms aren't really particular where they live

 

[JackM]

I suspect all bugs are making a comeback as a result of their presence on many of the tributaries. Were there Green Drakes before 1996?

 

[tomgamber]

littlejuniata wrote:


Trout down at least 20 percent in weight and power

No Green Caddis

No Green Drakes

No crayfish

Anyone who knows anything about the river or fly fishing would know that

that takes care of the "rationalization" experts

Sulphurs and Grannoms aren't really particular where they live

Lj I only started fishing the little J in the last 3 years. I have no idea what they weighed before that. This is why I asked for info. I would think anyone who knew anything about the river would be willing to share that kind of information rather than being rude to those wanting to learn more.

 

[JackM]

By the way, there are crayfish, and I witnessed a very large one above Spruce Creek a mile or so.

 

[littlejuniata]

Jack: That was a mirror

 

[littlejuniata]

One year I was sitting on the river, it was Green Drake time there wee millions of drakes over the river.

Spring of 96 I saw one Drake, right in front of the cabin

the drake was being attacked by 1 or 2 starving trout possibly more?

I have seen signs of Green Caddis on the lower river but they are carnivores and the last to come back

as are crayfish

DEP or the Fish commission will not answer the challenge

unless it would be

"That Was Unbelievably Stupid To Have The Facility There"



that is why the anointed ones response is "unbelievably stupid"

I want the question answered in a public forum

NOW consider how many other such stupid devices, plants decisions, etc the DEP has made that have not come to light yet!

The only way to stop them is to expose them

DEP will permit anything as long as it doesn't kill babys"

You may quote me on that

to them

and in this instance the PAFBC rolled over

 

[PennsCreek]

littlejuniata wrote:

DEP will permit anything as long as it doesn't kill babys"

You may quote me on that

to them

and in this instance the PAFBC rolled over

How about you quote yourself to them on this subject. No one in this forum has volunteered to be your personal public relations representative.

 

[littlejuniata]

Which begs the question

Why should these guys fight for their streams

hell they won't even fight for their siblings financial future or haven't you noticed.

discussed in another topic "in the hole"

PS I am "quoting myself" or haven't you noticed that either?

 

[littlejuniata]

The greater danger is that when a fisherman or ?? sees a facility like this they assume that the facility has been approved and therefore installed properly.

HA! "Yea Right"

 

[littlejuniata]

Do you folks realize that you have been screwed out of the opportunity to fish the Green Drake hatch on the Little Juniata

and that those responsible WALKED

the glaring fact about 14 years as stated by another posters is that

it is 14 years and still nothing has been done.

so the perps have open season