5' 6" 3w rod

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billyboat

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Hi gng,haven't posted much but I'm having trouble casting my 5' 6" fly rod. I get sloppy casts that end up with wind knots in the leader. It's a 3w rod with 4w line and #4 leader. I have no problems casting my 7' 6" fly rod. Any sugestions would be appreciated
Thanks in adcance.
Bill
 
Is it a different action from your 7'6''? I would guess it is softer, in which case you need to slow down and make sure the rod flexes on the back cast.
 
Its made by wildwarer, graphite. I think I got the rod from Cabelas.
 
I had a guy come into the shop about 30 yrs, ago and complained about not being able to cast his new rod. I asked to see it and it was a very short rod as you are describing. We went outside and I watched him with the rod then I picked it up and tried casting it myself, so guess what? My casting was not a whole lot better then what he was doing. I found out this was his first fly rod and asked where he bought it . I will not mention the shops name. I had a 8 ft. 4 or 5 weight and within 10 minutes his casting improved dramatically. Needless to say he owned a second rod leaving the shop. Why would anyone sell someone a very short hard to cast rod for there first rod?
 
I have tried short rods like that and didn't like them. The Ed Shenk rod may be the exception and there may be others, likely fiberglass.. I have a 6 ft 3 inch 3 wt. that casts very nicely. That is probably the shortest I would go.
 
Ed used wright McGill for his glass rods but I forget what cane he used. We sold several glass but I only remember selling one cane rod at the shop. As he got older his wrappings were not quite up to par and we quit selling them. Perhaps he just quit making them?
 
I own a lot of very short rods including one of Ed's rods built on a Lamiglass blank, a 5'0" 3wt Winston Retro, a 5'6" 3wt McFarland Spruce Creek, not to mention rods at 6'0" & 6'6" and a slew at 7'0".

All with the exception of a few bamboo rods at 6"6" & 7'0" are fiberglass, all cast just fine with the recommended line and all are wonderful rods for those incredibly tight places.

HOWEVER, the first thing I noticed when fishing a 5'0" or 5'6" rod is how much faster they feel versus their longer counterparts. That requires an immediate timing change to slow things down AND a very short leader.

As it seems Billyboats' rod is graphite and he's using a heavier line, it may be even faster than my short sticks meaning the troubles may be from not allowing the line (if there is any involved) to straighten out and/or the leader is entirely too long.

BTW - What is a #4 leader? If it doesn't mean a four foot leader, I'd start by getting one and trying to slow things down and not over power the cast to compensate. Another thing is make sure you are not using a long front taper line.

A long front tapered line (meaning anything much longer than 7') is a disaster on most short rods fished at short distances, especially the shortest rods fished with a longer leader. That's because there just isn't enough fly line mass out past the tip top, even if you overload the rod with a heavier line.

Good luck!
 
You gotta be patient and wait for it to load. When I first got a 7-footer I was having the same problem. I wasn't waiting for the rod to load before going forward and it created wind knots, etc.
 
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