PFBC Quarterly Meeting to be Held on April 28

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HARRISBURG, Pa. (April 17) – The Pennsylvania Fish and Boat Commission (PFBC) will hold its quarterly business meeting on Monday, April 28, 2025, beginning at 10 a.m., at its Harrisburg headquarters, located at 1601 Elmerton Avenue, Harrisburg, PA 17110. The meeting is open to the public.

The complete schedule and agenda for this meeting and information on how to provide public comment is available on the PFBC website (Fishandboat.com).

This meeting may be viewed remotely by joining the webinar from your internet browser using this link: https://bit.ly/Apr28CommMt

If prompted, enter the webinar access number code: 2870 102 4687
Password: public (782542 from phones)

To listen to the meeting by phone, call: 1 (408) 418-9388
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And once again the qualifying data for each Class A candidate and each wild trout stream candidate along with maps and sampling site locations are provided. Each quarter anglers get a chance to see the data for the candidates if they bother to look.
 
I see that the PFBC recommends that the board of commissioners approve the amendment to the Class A stocking protocol, despite receiving 17 comments against this and only one in support.

Why do we even bother to give our input if our concerns aren’t addressed?
 
I see that the PFBC recommends that the board of commissioners approve the amendment to the Class A stocking protocol, despite receiving 17 comments against this and only one in support.

Why do we even bother to give our input if our concerns aren’t addressed?
Yes, that one cracked me up a bit, as it was a head scratcher. From a practical standpoint though, I didn’t think the outcome was much of a negative given existing guidelines and I thought the debate here was overblown. I don’t think Commissioners should NOT be involved in stocking decisions and that includes whether or not a stream, river, or lake is added to or deleted from a stocking program.
 
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Where is the list of Class A waters that they want to start stocking?
I guess we have to wait to see the "white fleet" at the streams to find that out.

Here is a summary of the agenda discussed at the meeting.

The Class A part starts on page 20.

A listing and maps of the latest Class A and Wild Trout designation list follows the policy change.

 
Yes, that one cracked me up a bit, as it was a head scratcher. From a practical standpoint though, I didn’t think the outcome was much of a negative given existing guidelines and I thought the debate here was overblown. I don’t think Commissioners should be involved in stocking decisions and that includes whether or not a stream, river, or lake is added to or deleted from a stocking program.
Isn’t the purpose of the commissioners to represent the interests of anglers in the districts that they represent?
 
Here is a summary of the meeting:

HARRISBURG, Pa. (April 28) – The Pennsylvania Fish and Boat Commission (PFBC) began its quarterly business meeting by thanking anglers, agency staff, and volunteers for a safe and successful start to the 2025 trout season and promoting the plentiful fishing and boating opportunities that are just beginning as warmer spring temperatures arrive.

"Spring and summer are full of adventure and these first few weeks of trout season have only been the beginning,” said Dan Pastore, PFBC President and District 1 Commissioner. "We’re grateful to the crowds of volunteers who have turned out to assist our hatchery staff and Waterways Conservation Officers with stocking operations on hundreds of lakes and streams across the Commonwealth, and who will continue to help us stock trout through Memorial Day. As always, if you'relooking for a completely different experience and challenge beyond stocked trout, our plentiful wild trout streams are a wonderful resource to explore."

Pastore also encouraged anglers to visit new waters and seek out different types of fishing experiences beyond trout.

"I personally welcome anglers to visit northwest Pennsylvania to experience the world-class Walleye fishery on Lake Erie beginning in May and the bass fishery in Presque Isle Bay happening now,” added Pastore. “At the same time, as water temperatures begin to warm up all across the state, the bass, panfish, and catfish action really begin to heat up on our rivers and lakes. As always, if you plan to fish from a boat, please remember to wear your life jacket."

Anglers and boaters are reminded that the PFBC's cold weather life jacket requirement remains in effect from November 1 through April 30. During this time, anyone aboard a boat less than 16 feet in length, including all canoes, kayaks, and paddleboards, is required to wear a life jacket. In addition, the PFBC and many other organizations throughout the Commonwealth will partner with the National Safe Boating Council to celebrate National Safe Boating Week from May 17-23, 2025.



Boating Facility Grants Awarded

The PFBC awarded several grants through the Boating Facility Grant Program. Funds for this program are derived primarily from boat registration fees, state motorboat fuels tax, and restricted revenue accounts, if applicable. In certain instances, federal aid is also used, if appropriate. The 16 impactful projects awarded through the 2024 grant round are listed below, by watershed:

Delaware River Watershed

  • County of Chester; Improvements to Chambers Lake Access Area at Hibernia Park, Chester County
  • East Coventry Township; Construction of Motorized/Non-Motorized Boat Launch, Schuylkill River, Chester County
  • *Muhlenberg Township; Construction of a Canoe/Kayak Access at Pioneer Grove Park, Schuylkill River, Berks County
  • *Riverfront North Partnership; Dock Improvements at the Frankford Boat Launch, Delaware River, Philadelphia County
  • Schuylkill River Greenways; Construction of Motorized/Non-Motorized Boat Launch at Ganshahawny Park, Schuylkill River, Berks County
  • *Spring City Borough; Improvement to Amenities at the Spring City Boat Launch Park, Schuylkill River, Chester County
  • *Thornhurst Township; Development of Boat Access at Riverfront Park, Lehigh River, Lackawanna County
Lake Erie Watershed

  • Erie-Western Pennsylvania Port Authority; Replacement of Courtesy Boat Dock at Lampe Marina, Lake Erie, Erie County
Susquehanna River Watershed

  • Borough of Susquehanna Depot; Development of Non-Motorized Boat Launch at Ira Reynolds Park, Susquehanna River, Susquehanna County
  • *East Lampeter Township; Design and Construction of Canoe/Kayak Access, Mill Creek, Lancaster County
  • *Hanover Borough; Installation of Non-Motorized Access Area, Long Arm Reservoir, York County
  • *Lewistown Borough; Rehabilitation of Boat Launch at Victory Park, Juniata River, Mifflin County
  • *Montgomery Borough; Rehabilitation of Boat Launch at Montgomery Borough Park, West Branch Susquehanna River, Lycoming County
  • Wysox Township; Rehabilitation of Wysox Community Park Boat Launch, Susquehanna River, Bradford County
Ohio River Watershed

  • *North Franklin Township; Construction of Fishing Dock and Canoe/Kayak Launch on Reservoir Two, Washington County
  • Oil Region Alliance of Business, Industry, and Tourism; Construction of Non-Motorized Boat Launch at President Township Park, Allegheny River, Venango County
* Denotes projects announced during the first round of Boating Facility Grants in February 2025, for which the PFBC has awarded $100,000 or less, and did not require Board approval.



Erie Access Improvement Grants Awarded

The PFBC awarded one grant through the Erie Access Improvement Program. This program is funded through proceeds from the sale of Lake Erie permits to be used towards programs that benefit public fishing, including enhanced access and habitat projects on or at Lake Erie and the watersheds of Lake Erie. The project awarded through the 2024 grant round is listed below:

· McKean Township; McKean Conservation Area Master Plan Phase 2, Elk Creek, Erie County.





Law Enforcement

The Board approved the publication of a notice of proposed rulemaking pertaining to special regulations applicable to Lake Erie tributary streams. Under this proposal, the permitted hours for angler access and fishing on Walnut Creek from Route 5 downstream to the Manchester Road Bridge would be limited to one-half hour before sunrise to one-half hour after sunset. Walnut Creek from Manchester Road Bridge downstream to Lake Erie and Elk Creek north of Route 5 would maintain no time restrictions for fishing. If adopted on final rulemaking at a future meeting, this amendment would go into effect upon publication of a second notice in the Pennsylvania Bulletin.

Commissioners approved the publication of a notice of proposed rulemaking pertaining to insurance options for charter boat operators. Currently, charter boat operators and fishing guides in Pennsylvania are required to possess and maintain general liability insurance for all periods during which they are operating a charter boat or fishing guide operation on the waters of the Commonwealth. However, many insurance carriers will only issue protection and indemnity (P&I) insurance, and not general liability insurance, to businesses that provide services on the water. Under this proposal, the regulation (58 Pa. Code § 51.125) would be amended to include P&I insurance to the acceptable forms of insurance. If adopted on final rulemaking at a future meeting, this amendment would go into effect upon publication of a second notice in the Pennsylvania Bulletin.



Boating

The Board approved the publication of a notice of proposed rulemaking pertaining to use of electric boat motors on PFBC and Department of Conservation and Natural Resources owned or controlled waterways. Under this proposal, language within 58 Pa. Code § 107.2 would be amended to clarify that the use of electric motors must comply with horsepower limitations or equivalent kilowatt ratings set forth in 58 Pa. Code § 111 and clarify that boats are limited to only slow, no -wake speed if these waters are restricted to electric motors only. If adopted on final rulemaking at a future meeting, the amendments will go into effect upon publication in the Pennsylvania Bulletin.



Fisheries

The Board voted to approve a change in fishing regulations at Harris Pond, a PFBC lake located in Ross Township, Luzerne County. Under this change, the 30-acre impoundment will be removed from the Big Bass program (58 Pa. Code § 65.9). This action is necessary because Harris Pond is expected to be completely dewatered in 2025 or 2026 to complete dam and spillway repairs per the Pennsylvania Department of Environmental Protection’s dam safety standards. The removal of Harris Pond from the Big Bass Program follows previous executive action to remove all seasons, sizes, and creel limits at Harris Pond. This designation will go into effect upon publication of a second notice in the Pennsylvania Bulletin.

The Board voted to approve a change in fishing regulations at Rose Valley Lake, a PFBC lake located in Gamble Township, Lycoming County. Under this change, the 389-acre impoundment will be removed from the Big Bass program (58 Pa. Code § 65.9). This action is necessary because Rose Valley Lake is expected to be completely dewatered in 2026 to complete dam and spillway repairs per the Pennsylvania Department of Environmental Protection’s dam safety standards. The removal of Rose Valley Lake from the Big Bass Program follows previous executive action to remove all seasons, sizes, and creel limits at Rose Valley Lake. This designation will go into effect upon publication of a second notice in the Pennsylvania Bulletin.

The Board voted to approve the addition of 25 new waters to the PFBC's list of Class A wild trout streams, 45 waters to the PFBC’s list of wild trout streams, and the revision of the section limits of five waters currently listed. A list of waters proposed waters for Class A wild trout and wild trout stream designation can be found in the Pennsylvania Bulletin. All of these additions and revisions will go into effect upon publication of a second notice in the Pennsylvania Bulletin.

Commissioners voted to table Agenda Item A (Amendment to 58 Pa. Code § 57.8a, Class A Wild Trout Streams) pending further discussion.
 
Saw that. He didn't hold back, that's for sure.

Sure he has an agenda (see: his t-shirt) but if there is conflict of interest, that certainly needs to be looked into.
I feel that Pastore has a conflict of interest as well. How much money does he make from PFBC stockings? Should we really be letting the owner of the largest tackle shop in the state, vote on PFBC policy?
 
Anyone one catch a, banned but beloved, member of this forum comments to Brock and the commissioners?
I’d love to watch the recording of the meeting, but the PFBC hasn’t updated its YouTube channel since March, when it uploaded the January Commission meeting.

So I’m assuming that it will be June before we get to see it.
 
I’d love to watch the recording of the meeting, but the PFBC hasn’t updated its YouTube channel since March, when it uploaded the January Commission meeting.

So I’m assuming that it will be June before we get to see it.
Oh, well you can watch his comments here: I saw it shared on the PFBC Facebook page.l


The rest of the meeting you will have to wait
 
Very much so. He managed to say all of that without using the word invasive one time.
Mistakes were made, always room for improvement, this is fishsticks right?

Time probably slowed and he heard his heartbeat in his throat and ears. (I once had an Interpersonal communication class. Cripes! It was kinda hard not to start breathing a little irregularly and to get an elevated heart rate and to start feeling a little light headed during the public speaking tests.) Maybe for him, for once in Pa, invasives proved elusive.

I mean ……….it can’t be a good trend, if there are more invasives in our local creek than there is, in an entire fishsticks speech to the fish commission? How did we get here? lol


Go fishsticks! Love Hellbenders and natives!
Go straub beer!
My weird opinion. As a native brook trout lover. I can think of worse things than a fish commissioner that runs a brewery and spends money on what they think makes fishing better.
All the things a fish commissioner could be accused of. I find it hard to believe that spending money to stock trout is maliciously done on his end. If he is spending his “own” company money on it. I don’t think he thinks it’s a bad thing. He puts his money where his mouth is.

I’m not sure a pro-stocking commissioner is inherently a de facto bad thing. I’d like to think that if we complain that 90% of guys are stocky fishermen, then how can we turn around and complain about how one fish commissioner is pro stocking? Seems like a scapegoat for a larger scope multigenerational system of raising trout and spreading them.

Sorry I’m rambling

~5footfenwick
 
Mistakes were made, always room for improvement, this is fishsticks right?

Time probably slowed and he heard his heartbeat in his throat and ears. (I once had an Interpersonal communication class. Cripes! It was kinda hard not to start breathing a little irregularly and to get an elevated heart rate and to start feeling a little light headed during the public speaking tests.) Maybe for him, for once in Pa, invasives proved elusive.

I mean ……….it can’t be a good trend, if there are more invasives in our local creek than there is, in an entire fishsticks speech to the fish commission? How did we get here? lol


Go fishsticks! Love Hellbenders and natives!
Go straub beer!
My weird opinion. As a native brook trout lover. I can think of worse things than a fish commissioner that runs a brewery and spends money on what they think makes fishing better.
All the things a fish commissioner could be accused of. I find it hard to believe that spending money to stock trout is maliciously done on his end. If he is spending his “own” company money on it. I don’t think he thinks it’s a bad thing. He puts his money where his mouth is.

I’m not sure a pro-stocking commissioner is inherently a de facto bad thing. I’d like to think that if we complain that 90% of guys are stocky fishermen, then how can we turn around and complain about how one fish commissioner is pro stocking? Seems like a scapegoat for a larger scope multigenerational system of raising trout and spreading them.

Sorry I’m rambling

~5footfenwick
I was of the understanding that these tagged fish are coming from the Potter County Anglers Club. This is permitted since no entry fee is required for the tagged fish contest, thus the PFBC fish that Potter County Anglers receives can be used.

There had been a prohibition on co-op hatcheries purchasing fish from private facilities, but that’s no longer the case.
 
Well to be honest, FishSticks made many good, coherent points. I think y'all were just too annoyed by him to hear them 🤷.
 
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