On The Board. Barely.

Niiicee. For a minute I thought I was making it back to Indian River Lagoon right about now, but the shambolic friend group did what a shambolic friend group does.

That fish was IRL adjacent. Hopefully you can get back there.

You taught me a new word, like this is Sesame Street haha! I had to look up "shambolic".
 
Is that to say that you have 7 streams in the entire state that you haven't fished?? Or is this a board joke?
I don't want to speak for the man himself, but I think he means that there are 7 intriguing streams that meet his definition of a trout stream worth exploring left to fish in the state. He is not implying that he has fished every single flowing water in the PA except for 7 streams; he is implying that there are 7 worthwhile targets on his radar yet to be explored.

To the best of my knowledge, Swattie has an MO for exploring trout waters. I will allow him to divulge that information if he so chooses. He seems to know more about individual streams across PA than other people I've ever had a conversation with.
 
I don't want to speak for the man himself, but I think he means that there are 7 intriguing streams that meet his definition of a trout stream worth exploring left to fish in the state. He is not implying that he has fished every single flowing water in the PA except for 7 streams; he is implying that there are 7 worthwhile targets on his radar yet to be explored.

To the best of my knowledge, Swattie has an MO for exploring trout waters. I will allow him to divulge that information if he so chooses. He seems to know more about individual streams across PA than other people I've ever had a conversation with.
Ok, thanks for the info. Either way, that's impressive. But to have fished nearly 6000 streams would be mind blowing. My job (when in PA) took me up close and personal with a lot of water and I did a lot of exploring myself between fishing and hiking, and I couldn't imagine getting close to all the waters I've ever wanted to fish in an entire life worth of fishing.
 
Yeah, what jfigz said is basically accurate. Iā€™ve fished somewhere between 300 and 400. And yes there are 7 left on my ā€œwish listā€ that I havenā€™t fished.

I donā€™t deal with private land issues when fishing, so I generally only fish public land, or if private, very obvious areas where the landowner allows fishing. So that thins the potential sample size. And yeah, I donā€™t fish the tiny 1 sq. mile streams like kbob. But yeah, thereā€™s seven left I find interesting enough for one reason or another to fish.
 
Yeah, what jfigz said is basically accurate. Iā€™ve fished somewhere between 300 and 400. And yes there are 7 left on my ā€œwish listā€ that I havenā€™t fished.

I donā€™t deal with private land issues when fishing, so I generally only fish public land, or if private, very obvious areas where the landowner allows fishing. So that thins the potential sample size. And yeah, I donā€™t fish the tiny 1 sq. mile streams like kbob. But yeah, thereā€™s seven left I find interesting enough for one reason or another to fish.
Very nice. I'm similar in that I don't deal with much private land unless it's family or friends. I'm around 200 different streams and should be adding a number here in a couple of weeks in a fishing spree with my dad. Most of what I've fished is concentrated around the Allegheny National Forest, with increasing forays out into the big woods of the PA Wilds. I've seen a bunch while hiking or backpacking that I'd like to get back to, but time constraints (and distance, currently) prevent it. Many of my trips around the home waters (before I moved) were repeats on streams I knew I'd do well, but even then I had a few surprises. One little stream that I felt was a dud (which was shocking as the next stream valley was a fantastic fishery) from fishing it back in 2010, I returned in 2023 and moved further upstream and caught quite a few solid fish. As I like to hike, most every water has some interest to me, when I have the time to explore.
 
Fished for the first time in 2025. Latest start to the year I can remember. Fished a new stream. Knew the scenery would be good from research, and expected the fishing to be slow based on some survey reports Iā€™ve seenā€¦Class D Brookie population impacted by acid rain deposition, I suspect.

Anyway, scenery didnā€™t disappoint and the stream was worth a fish from that standpoint. I only caught one fish, but it was a good one. Itch sufficiently scratched until Spring actually gets here.

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That is a chunk of a brookie! Beautiful stream too.
 
Very nice. I'm similar in that I don't deal with much private land unless it's family or friends. I'm around 200 different streams and should be adding a number here in a couple of weeks in a fishing spree with my dad. Most of what I've fished is concentrated around the Allegheny National Forest, with increasing forays out into the big woods of the PA Wilds. I've seen a bunch while hiking or backpacking that I'd like to get back to, but time constraints (and distance, currently) prevent it. Many of my trips around the home waters (before I moved) were repeats on streams I knew I'd do well, but even then I had a few surprises. One little stream that I felt was a dud (which was shocking as the next stream valley was a fantastic fishery) from fishing it back in 2010, I returned in 2023 and moved further upstream and caught quite a few solid fish. As I like to hike, most every water has some interest to me, when I have the time to explore.

Your approach sounds similar to mine. Iā€™d pick an area of the state, explore it until I was done, then pick a new area. Some areas would take a couple years to get through. I felt like I was in the Endless Mountains region most weekends for a few yearsā€¦Good problem to have.

Iā€™ve never gotten ā€œthe listā€ all the way down to zero, but this is about as close as Iā€™ve gotten it. And I spent a few Winter evenings this year combing over all the SF/SGL/SP/NF maps to make sure I hadnā€™t overlooked anything. I had it down to six, but I recently saw some surprising survey data on a small stream I had written off to AMD. So I added that one to the list. Sometimes a new piece of SF or SGL gets added, and it opens up access to a stream. The list has both shrunk and grown over time. But yeah, thereā€™s not much out there left. Hereā€™s whatā€™s left, not naming stream names for obvious reasons:

Two small ANF streams. One is small and steep and has Browns, odd for the region, I believe. The other is actually stocked, but should have wild Trout, and Iā€™ve seen some interesting things on satellite maps that make me wanna explore it.

One NCPA small stream that has been my plan B numerous times, yet Iā€™ve never made it there. When this has happened to me in the past, the plan B stream turns out to be really good.

One Central PA-ish, small, very remote stream. This will be the toughest one to get done. It will require a boat of some kind. Or a 10ish mile round trip and 800 ft of elevation both ways hike of a day. Canā€™t camp on it.

One small, steep, tannic NEPA Brookie stream. Fished its twin one valley over last year and picked the wrong one apparently.

One blatantly obvious backpacking stream Iā€™ve just never managed to get to.

And the one (Central PA) I just got the new survey data on.

Other than maybe the one thatā€™s a bear to get into, I figure to have these done in 2025.
 
Swattie is trying to do with Pa trout streams, what Acristickid is doing with every Trout and Salmon specie in America. šŸ™‚

Itā€™s similar in ways. Though his accomplishment is magnitudes of 10x more difficult and impressive.

Iā€™m literally saying ā€œI donā€™t feel like fishing that oneā€, so I donā€™t. Haha.

But it is interesting how different parts of FFing motivate us differently. For me, itā€™s the places, and the exploration.
 
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