Sundrunk, all I can say is good luck. I was a little ill on the way home Matt, but the reason I quit trying to tie on the way down was that despite the relatively smooth ride of a car, the subtle bumps and bobs that mean nothing when you are riding are a real pain in the rear when you are trying to tie. I found it possible to tie only by holding on to the fly with my empty hand while winding thread with the other. The wooly bugger or two I managed to finish were even uglier than the ones I tie at the comfort of my stationary desk. And believe me, I have tied some ugly flies. Why, Festus' poorly proportioned $0.54 flies are downright swans compared to those car-ties.