Looking to get a new rod & reel for christmas

huntfish

huntfish

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hey fellas,
i'm looking to get a new setup for christmas. looking for a primarily native brookie rod that i can take and cast in tight places. thinking maybe 6' 2 weight would be a good size. any suggestions on what i should get? looking at around $300 total.

cheers
 
I would suggest a 7' or 7' 6" for 3 or 4wt line. The 6' 2wt sounds like a great idea, but after going that route for a while, the hassle of having a rod with such limited uses is frustrating when actually on the stream. And no, the fish won't "feel bigger" that's a bunch of crap. You're just going to haul them right in whether you have a 2wt or 4wt rod. If you hook a larger fish its going to put up a better battle that you can appreciate regardless of the rod in your hand.

The longer length of a 7' or 7' 6" rod will help in a lot of situations, for instance if you have to cast over some exposed rocks or logs it will allow you to hold your line up off the obstructions. The length also helps if you are trying to dap or high stick a fly into a tight spot. The heavier line will make casting a bushy or weighted fly easier and thus your fishing will be more fun. Making accurate cast into tight spaces with a bushy dry fly or streamer is a lot of fun. Struggling against a light breeze or with a light line trying to cast a weighted streamer is not.

Certain people are going to chime in and say how they can do all that with really short, and really light rods. Yes, I'm sure they can, I can too. That doesn't mean its enjoyable, and it doesn't mean a short 2wt is a versatile rod, even for brookie fishing.

2wts can be a blast, but conditions have to be just about perfect. That means no significant wind and smaller flies. On the other hand 3 and 4 weights can do it all. Save the 2wt for later, for now, get a serious small stream rod and go for a heavier line weight in my opinion .

Kev
 
P.s. Redington has some nice 3wt options in the Path and Cassic Trout rod series.
 
A Cabelas TQR (Tight Quarters Rod) is one rod that I always recommend for this type of fishing, from Brookie streams to Spring creeks. I think it's on sale at the moment for 89.00$? Originally 109.99$. I've owned the 7ft 2wt rod for over a year now and overlined it with Rio gold 3wt line and use it for all my small stream fishing, it has become my go-to rod. For me, it easily cast midges to streamers with accuracy. It also comes in longer and shorter lengths.
 
http://www.flyfishohio.com/2-Weight_Shoot-Out/2-Weight_Shoot-Out.htm
Here's a link for some 2 weight reviews that you might find helpful.
 
2 weights are fun but do not make good all-around brookie rods. I have a St. Croix Avid 7'6" 2 weight. I use it almost exclusively for fishing midges and tricos on limestoners. I would recommend a 3 weight as minimum and a 4 would be even better. My two favorites are a G. Loomis GL3 6'6" 3 weight and a Sage TXL 7' 4 weight. At the price point you mentioned I would consider the St. Croix Imperial in a 7' 3 or 7'6" 4 weight.
 
+2 for Pennkev and wildtigertrout answers
 
Happy shopping


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I've said it a bunch of times on here when people want a small stream rod. Cheaper is better. $300 is a lot of cash to spend on something you can drop, bang against a tree, or snap trying to free your flies from a tree.

I think $150 is still a lot for both the rod and reel.

I got a PAC bay kit for $35 and $35 for a cheap reel.
 
For brookie fishing, I think a 7 1/2 ft, 4 wt is a very good all around choice.
 
I have had no problems with a Three Forks 7'6" 3 weight. Will also easily throw a 4 weight for close in ( 10 feet of line out ).
I've also been using an old 7' 5 weight Shakespeare fiberglass this year and enjoying THAT even more.
 
Check out the Orvis Superfine Touch Series. They are on super sale right now. I just purchased the 7'6" 1 wt. Great rod, Great Company, Great Warranty, and Made in the good old USA!!!
 
I have a 363 I use on brookie streams. I like fishing it but it's a one-trick-pony.
 
Love my Orvis T3 7'6" 3WT, awesome rod. Saw one on ebay right now for $119.00. I wouldn't go with a 2wt.
 
docdom. trying to find the t3 on orvis website but i can't seem to find it...
 
huntfish wrote:
docdom. trying to find the t3 on orvis website but i can't seem to find it...

T3's have been discontinued for several years. Hence, the affordable price on the used market.
 
I do a lot of brookies with a 5wt 8' redington. They sell a 2 piece, 4 wt 7' 6" crosswater setup you can find for 120 bucks. I like having the slightly longer rod for casting and flipping the flies, because you still have to keep your distance from spooking fish even in the small streams, heck it's even harder there. I also like the heavier weight because a lot of the brookie waters I fish will have bigger browns mixed in. I know thats way under the price range you are looking for, but til you put better line on (if you want) it will get you about halfway there.

Otherwise I would agree with the other guys, redington has some nice classic rods that are a lighter weight and you can pair with a reel of your choosing, or I think something like the orvis clearwater 3 wt w/ a nice reel would do well too. It's around 200 bucks for the rod.
 
thanks for the info. i have an 8'6" 5 weight right now, but the brookie streams i like to fish are in small, thick wooded areas so i feel a shorter rod would be easier to manage out there
 
huntfish wrote:
thanks for the info. i have an 8'6" 5 weight right now, but the brookie streams i like to fish are in small, thick wooded areas so i feel a shorter rod would be easier to manage out there

A 6' 2wt is about as useful as **** on a bull.
 
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