Is this SRC in different clothes ?

[Bruno]

http://www.loganoutfitters.com

 

[trout17]

Yes!
Jim Kearney :-x

 

[nimrod]

Reading the testimonials from the "fishermen" prompted me to toss my cookies.

 

[TimMurphy]

trout17 wrote:
Yes!
Jim Kearney :-x

Dear Bruno,

What he said!

Hey Jim, it's good to see you around! I was wondering where you wound up.

Regards,
Tim Murphy

 

[ian_brown]

It looks like some of their beats are on the Little Juniata. Their clients must not be too bright if they shell out thousands of dollars to fish water they could wade or float for free.

 

[Stone_Fly]

It could be but my money says it is the clown that posted a while back about Not for PofitAccess.

 

[TimMurphy]

Dear stonefly,

SRC and Logan Outfitter's are one and the same.

It wasn't on this message board, but I read posts on another message board from people who I know personally that inquired about Logan Outfitter's at the Somerset NJ Fly Show.

While I don't know why those people chose to call me a friend, they have sufficient "horsepower" to join SRC. As they explained things, they talked to the folks at the Logan Outfitter's booth long enough to be "vetted" as potential SRC members. At that point they were invited to go meet some other people at the show.

Those people they were sent to meet were Donny Beaver and the SRC crowd.

I ain't real good at math, but I can do that math in my sleep. :-D

Regards,
Tim Murphy

 

[Gone4Day]

Close at least. Logan is PO Box 87, Spruce Creek, PA and SRC is 88.

 

[Maurice]

If you browse the site, check out the waters, etc. It is exactly the same waters as the SRC + public waters. Looks like a day and weekend trip option for the same waters...all waters seem to be subject availability...I take this as they give the "vested" members first crack.

At least thats the way I see it.

$895 for a one day steelhead trip...GMAFB

 

[CRB]

OUTFITTER STRATEGY
OUTLINED
As all of you may already know, there remains a lot of controversy about
private property rights as they relate to fly-fishing. In particular, there has
been some animosity directed toward the Club and to me personally over
the years. We have found that the best tradeshow protocol is the “Trojan
Horse” approach . . . in other words, have the Club blend into someone
else’s booth. In the past we have done in this in two ways:
• During the first two years of the Club, we also owned an outfitting
business called “Angling Fantasies.” AF offered day trips and
guide services to private waters, and the general fly-fishing public
seemed to LOVE the idea that they could gain access to
hallowed” private waters. It was very successful. At the trade
shows, we would keep Club materials under the table in case
someone fit the “club profile.” However, the outfitting business
was out front.
• For a couple of shows, we also became a sub-set of the
Frontiers Travel booth, which worked the same way.
Three years ago, we dropped the “outfitting angle” and decided that people
had to join the Club or not fish with us. Well, that really brought out the
worst in the “public.” They’d say, “You’re the greedy SOBs who charge
$80,000 to join and keep us poor working slobs off the water.” So, for the
past few years, we just stayed away from trade shows completely.
However, we discovered that ever since we dropped the outfitting “front
end” of the business, our membership recruitment pace has not grown as
well as we had planned. It seems as if there is this huge perceptual leap of
faith from “zero to $85,000.” On the other hand, we have tested a couple
of important things in the past twelve months.
• Revive the outfitting business in the East — In 2004 and 2005,
we began to acquire private water MUCH faster than we could
recruit new members. As a matter of fact, we have about ten miles
of water lying “fallow” right now and another ten miles of water
that is grossly under-utilized by Club members. For the past
twelve months, we have been experimenting with controlled
outfitting on our “emerging” waters (Spring Farm, Willows, Eddie’s
Stretch, etc.). The name of this business is Sporting Club
CALENDAR OF
EVENTS
TheCall
END
Exchange, what we’re now calling Logan Outfitters, and we limit
access to the underutilized stretches on a strictly controlled
basis. This has helped the Club in significant ways:
—We have brought in nearly $100,000 in new revenues, which
help to underwrite these fallow properties.
—We have recruited two new members who would not have
joined if not given the chance to fish for three or four days.
• Partner with Gorsuch Outfitters in Colorado — This year we also
realized that actively working with an outfitter who handles highend
clients could help significantly with Club recruitment. We
anticipate attracting at least 25 new Club members to the
Colorado Club in 2007, thanks to this relationship.
To make a long story short, we have decided to make Gorsuch and Logan
Outfitters the “face” of our trade show booths for 2007 (in Denver,
Somerset, New Jersey, and Marlboro, Massachusetts).
The “inner sanctum” in the back of each booth will be our “Club headquarters”
at the shows. It will be closed off from the general public and be open
by invitation only to potential Club members. We will be running our DVD
on a loop, we have Club literature available, and we will have a scrapbook
of photos available for viewing. This is also where we can use your help. If
we do have people come into the Club Room, it will be most helpful if a
current member is available for conversation by potential members.
We see the “front of the booth” as this busy, active, bustling outfitter face
and the “back of the booth” as a quiet sanctuary where we can discuss the
Club concept with folks in privacy.
IMPORTANT POINTS TO REMEMBER:
—Outfitter customers do NOT fish our Legacy waters; only
those stretches of under-utilized or emerging waters not
typically fished by members.
—Members will not ever be bumped from any stretch of water
and will have first preference on Logan-specified waters if
they wish to fish them.
—This income helps the Club and our members, not only
because it pays for improving fallow waters and underutilized
properties, but also will keep fees down.
—The outfitters businesses will serve as “conduits” for new
potential members to enter our sales pipeline.
from:
Thursday1/4call
Your weekly journal of news and views from your Club!

Here are Donny Beaver's words
"FROM DONNY . . .
As you are reading this, I am in
Denver getting the trade show
booth set up. I’m looking forward
to seeing what’s new and catching
up with old friends. For those
of you who don’t already know
this, we are “piggybacking” with
Gorsuch Outfitters and Logan
Outfitters, with a sort of “inner
sanctum” in the back of the booth
for Spring Ridge. It’s a great way
for us to be there and yet not
draw any unwanted attention"

 

[Wmass]

CRB wrote:
OUTFITTER STRATEGY
OUTLINED
As all of you may already know, there remains a lot of controversy about
private property rights as they relate to fly-fishing. In particular, there has
been some animosity directed toward the Club and to me personally over
the years. We have found that the best tradeshow protocol is the “Trojan
Horse” approach . . . in other words, have the Club blend into someone
else’s booth. In the past we have done in this in two ways:
• During the first two years of the Club, we also owned an outfitting
business called “Angling Fantasies.” AF offered day trips and
guide services to private waters, and the general fly-fishing public
seemed to LOVE the idea that they could gain access to
hallowed” private waters. It was very successful. At the trade
shows, we would keep Club materials under the table in case
someone fit the “club profile.” However, the outfitting business
was out front.
• For a couple of shows, we also became a sub-set of the
Frontiers Travel booth, which worked the same way.
Three years ago, we dropped the “outfitting angle” and decided that people
had to join the Club or not fish with us. Well, that really brought out the
worst in the “public.” They’d say, “You’re the greedy SOBs who charge
$80,000 to join and keep us poor working slobs off the water.” So, for the
past few years, we just stayed away from trade shows completely.
However, we discovered that ever since we dropped the outfitting “front
end” of the business, our membership recruitment pace has not grown as
well as we had planned. It seems as if there is this huge perceptual leap of
faith from “zero to $85,000.” On the other hand, we have tested a couple
of important things in the past twelve months.
• Revive the outfitting business in the East — In 2004 and 2005,
we began to acquire private water MUCH faster than we could
recruit new members. As a matter of fact, we have about ten miles
of water lying “fallow” right now and another ten miles of water
that is grossly under-utilized by Club members. For the past
twelve months, we have been experimenting with controlled
outfitting on our “emerging” waters (Spring Farm, Willows, Eddie’s
Stretch, etc.). The name of this business is Sporting Club
CALENDAR OF
EVENTS
TheCall
END
Exchange, what we’re now calling Logan Outfitters, and we limit
access to the underutilized stretches on a strictly controlled
basis. This has helped the Club in significant ways:
—We have brought in nearly $100,000 in new revenues, which
help to underwrite these fallow properties.
—We have recruited two new members who would not have
joined if not given the chance to fish for three or four days.
• Partner with Gorsuch Outfitters in Colorado — This year we also
realized that actively working with an outfitter who handles highend
clients could help significantly with Club recruitment. We
anticipate attracting at least 25 new Club members to the
Colorado Club in 2007, thanks to this relationship.
To make a long story short, we have decided to make Gorsuch and Logan
Outfitters the “face” of our trade show booths for 2007 (in Denver,
Somerset, New Jersey, and Marlboro, Massachusetts).
The “inner sanctum” in the back of each booth will be our “Club headquarters”
at the shows. It will be closed off from the general public and be open
by invitation only to potential Club members. We will be running our DVD
on a loop, we have Club literature available, and we will have a scrapbook
of photos available for viewing. This is also where we can use your help. If
we do have people come into the Club Room, it will be most helpful if a
current member is available for conversation by potential members.
We see the “front of the booth” as this busy, active, bustling outfitter face
and the “back of the booth” as a quiet sanctuary where we can discuss the
Club concept with folks in privacy.
IMPORTANT POINTS TO REMEMBER:
—Outfitter customers do NOT fish our Legacy waters; only
those stretches of under-utilized or emerging waters not
typically fished by members.
—Members will not ever be bumped from any stretch of water
and will have first preference on Logan-specified waters if
they wish to fish them.
—This income helps the Club and our members, not only
because it pays for improving fallow waters and underutilized
properties, but also will keep fees down.
—The outfitters businesses will serve as “conduits” for new
potential members to enter our sales pipeline.
from:
Thursday1/4call
Your weekly journal of news and views from your Club!

Here are Donny Beaver's words
"FROM DONNY . . .
As you are reading this, I am in
Denver getting the trade show
booth set up. I’m looking forward
to seeing what’s new and catching
up with old friends. For those
of you who don’t already know
this, we are “piggybacking” with
Gorsuch Outfitters and Logan
Outfitters, with a sort of “inner
sanctum” in the back of the booth
for Spring Ridge. It’s a great way
for us to be there and yet not
draw any unwanted attention"

So the SRC would like to turn "the East" into what is already killing fly fishing in the Western US. Fly fishing in the West is becoming a pay-to-play sport where ranchers are now fighting to keep their stretches of water private and opening up lodges to make extra bucks. Just wonderful that Donny wants to bring that filth to the eastern US.

 

[trout17]

How have you been Tim?
I have lurked here for many years but usually not very active. I will participate more with some familar names showing up more often. I'll have to get to "know" a few guys here as well, albeit via the 'net.
Talk to you again.
Jim Kearney

 

[CRB]

This is where I gathered the info:

Thursdays Call, January 4,2007, Quoted from the Spring Ridge web site.