Camp PAWE, 555-acre former hunting camp has been preserved in the Poconos near Bushkill Falls

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Not familiar with Red Rock Run, but anytime the State purchases land for public access it is a win.


For generations, Camp PAWE was a private, gated haven for anglers and hunters in the Poconos, spread across 555 acres of ridges and knolls next to Pennsylvania’s Delaware State Forest and not far from Bushkill Falls and the Delaware Water Gap.

It boasted a shooting range and ATV trails. Whitetail deer, black bear, and wild turkey roamed amid the hardwood forest, grassland meadow, and clear watered Red Rock Run.

As of this week, it’s all now part of the adjacent state forest, which was already 83,519 acres spanning four counties. The land was preserved as part of an agreement between The Conservation Fund, a national nonprofit, and the Pennsylvania Department of Conservation and Natural Resources Bureau of Forestry (DCNR).

https://www.inquirer.com/news/camp-...-conservation-fund-preservation-20230630.html
 
Easements into perpetuity are a better use of PAFBC monies.
www.fishandboat.com/Transact/Grants/Pages/VoluntaryPublicAccess-HabitatIncentiveProgram.aspx

FUNDING AVAILABLE TO LANDOWNERS THROUGH THE VOLUNTARY PUBLIC ACCESS/HABITAT INCENTIVE PROGRAM​

01/25/2022

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HARRISBURG, Pa. (January 25) -- Great fishing locations and a wide variety of fish species have helped make fishing one of Pennsylvania's' most popular outdoor activities. To support this popular activity, the Pennsylvania Fish and Boat Commission (PFBC) is seeking willing landowners to enter into an agreement to allow public fishing access on their property.
The PFBC is offering landowners a one-time payment for granting a public fishing and habitat improvement easement. The payment is based on several factors including the amount of stream frontage and the value of the fishery. By taking advantage of this program, landowners contribute to fishing access opportunities in their own communities while still retaining ownership and control of the land.
Agreements under this program are a voluntary and permanent legal contract between the landowner and the PFBC. These easements provide a corridor along a stream that allows the public to wade in and walk along the stream bank for the purpose of fishing. Entering into the agreement preserves landowner rights and provides additional benefits. Landowners may still use the property for other activities. Landowners may limit public access for other purposes such as camping or hunting.
Funding for this opportunity is provided by the Natural Resources Conservation Service (NRCS) Voluntary Public Access and Habitat Incentive Program. The NRCS is a service of the U.S. Department of Agriculture.
Landowners interested in this opportunity or who want more information about this program should visit the PFBC website or contact Scott Bollinger at (717) 346-8196 or scbollinge@pa.gov.
Direct link to website: www.fishandboat.com/Transact/Grants/Pages/VoluntaryPublicAccess-HabitatIncentiveProgram.aspx

www.fishandboat.com/Transact/Grants/Pages/VoluntaryPublicAccess-HabitatIncentiveProgram.aspx
 
Dcnr didn’t ask for “willing landowner participation” they just bought two new state parks. Do you have any data on the participation in this? Last time I heard about this the compensation was peanuts.
 
Dr.
Read before you react:
Land conservation uses many entities and funding sources along with volunteer hours for projects to work.
These projects take time and luck to acquire and often there are underlining stories that do not want to come to light.
The Conservation Fund is a good organization that has completed projects through out the United States.
 
Dr.
Read before you react:
Land conservation uses many entities and funding sources along with volunteer hours for projects to work.
These projects take time and luck to acquire and often there are underlining stories that do not want to come to light.
The Conservation Fund is a good organization that has completed projects through out the United States.
PFBC could be using their money as a match in multi stakeholder land acquisition deals on a semi annual or annual basis with organizations like the conservation fund. What do you think would have happened if the millions annually through licenses and grants spent on hatcheries were used to aquire access and easement since the year 2000 or back 1990? There are so many towns needing MS4 requirements and other carrots that could have been used for acquisitions like this such as places that flood regularly ect. I stand behind my comment that other people buy places to fish and protect wildlife and PFBC just buys crappy invasive trout
 
This did not exist before 2004
Easements we not a part of the original proposal and it took some time for the Commission to get behind the idea. Before 2004 pure acquisitions of whole properties were the norm. If fishermen in the other parts of the state want stream miles to be acquired funding sources need to be addressed and weighed against existing programs and legacy expenditures. Also playing a part are local municipalities seeking their tax bases will not be diminished.
 
This did not exist before 2004
Easements we not a part of the original proposal and it took some time for the Commission to get behind the idea. Before 2004 pure acquisitions of whole properties were the norm. If fishermen in the other parts of the state want stream miles to be acquired funding sources need to be addressed and weighed against existing programs and legacy expenditures. Also playing a part are local municipalities seeking their tax bases will not be diminished.
Penn-state smeal college of business said PFBC’s existing hatchery infrastructure is financially unsustainable. PFBC got 27.5 million dollars of tax payer money in 2020 in the form of a growing greener grant that was mostly used on fixing hatcheries. The costs are growing faster than license sales revenue and license prices are going up which won’t even cover it. This is simple economics even if you ignore all the damage stocked invasive trout do. It cannot continue at this scale. 27.5 million could have bought a lot of access and so could the 13 million a year wasted on stocked trout. There is the funding source, even if you still use half that to stock more responsibly its still alot of money left to buy stream corridors and parcels. Even Penn State school of bussiness is saying PFBC needs to reduce stocking just for financial reasons.
 
Penn-state smeal college of business said PFBC’s existing hatchery infrastructure is financially unsustainable. PFBC got 27.5 million dollars of tax payer money in 2020 in the form of a growing greener grant that was mostly used on fixing hatcheries. The costs are growing faster than license sales revenue and license prices are going up which won’t even cover it. This is simple economics even if you ignore all the damage stocked invasive trout do. It cannot continue at this scale. 27.5 million could have bought a lot of access and so could the 13 million a year wasted on stocked trout. There is the funding source, even if you still use half that to stock more responsibly its still alot of money left to buy stream corridors and parcels. Even Penn State school of bussiness is saying PFBC needs to reduce stocking just for financial reasons.
Couldn't we say this about more states? For instance, didn't New Hampshire spend $55 million from American Rescue Plan Act on trout hatcheries last year?
Is it just the trout hatchery and stocking costs that are unsustainable? How much money is spent on warm water hatch series to stock fish in lakes behind man made dams?
I agree that stocking reform is needed and money saved would help in acquiring land and / or easements. I also would support a voluntary stamp for land acquisition fund.
 
Couldn't we say this about more states? For instance, didn't New Hampshire spend $55 million from American Rescue Plan Act on trout hatcheries last year?
Is it just the trout hatchery and stocking costs that are unsustainable? How much money is spent on warm water hatch series to stock fish in lakes behind man made dams?
I agree that stocking reform is needed and money saved would help in acquiring land and / or easements. I also would support a voluntary stamp for land acquisition fund.
Ohhh right you are that was one of the more heinous examples nationally.

Agree on the stamp, id throw some real money at something like that. I think local TU chapters and other organizations could do fund raisers or ask people to donate or leave such a fund in their will.
 
I've fished Red Rock many times in the past,nice little brookie stream.Saw Creek in the area of Red Rock has brookies also.The reason I don't fish this area more often is I always come out covered in ticks.Does anyone else fish this area have the same problem?
 
I've fished Red Rock many times in the past,nice little brookie stream.Saw Creek in the area of Red Rock has brookies also.The reason I don't fish this area more often is I always come out covered in ticks.Does anyone else fish this area have the same problem?

I’ve fished Red Rock and Saw near its confluence with Red Rock. Only caught fish in Red Rock. Gets skinny quick above the big waterfall. Can’t say I recall noticing any ticks, but it was late Fall when I was there. Not the most active time for ticks.
 
Easements into perpetuity are a better use of PAFBC monies.
www.fishandboat.com/Transact/Grants/Pages/VoluntaryPublicAccess-HabitatIncentiveProgram.aspx

FUNDING AVAILABLE TO LANDOWNERS THROUGH THE VOLUNTARY PUBLIC ACCESS/HABITAT INCENTIVE PROGRAM​

01/25/2022

PFBC Bar Logo Updated.png

HARRISBURG, Pa. (January 25) -- Great fishing locations and a wide variety of fish species have helped make fishing one of Pennsylvania's' most popular outdoor activities. To support this popular activity, the Pennsylvania Fish and Boat Commission (PFBC) is seeking willing landowners to enter into an agreement to allow public fishing access on their property.
The PFBC is offering landowners a one-time payment for granting a public fishing and habitat improvement easement. The payment is based on several factors including the amount of stream frontage and the value of the fishery. By taking advantage of this program, landowners contribute to fishing access opportunities in their own communities while still retaining ownership and control of the land.
Agreements under this program are a voluntary and permanent legal contract between the landowner and the PFBC. These easements provide a corridor along a stream that allows the public to wade in and walk along the stream bank for the purpose of fishing. Entering into the agreement preserves landowner rights and provides additional benefits. Landowners may still use the property for other activities. Landowners may limit public access for other purposes such as camping or hunting.
Funding for this opportunity is provided by the Natural Resources Conservation Service (NRCS) Voluntary Public Access and Habitat Incentive Program. The NRCS is a service of the U.S. Department of Agriculture.
Landowners interested in this opportunity or who want more information about this program should visit the PFBC website or contact Scott Bollinger at (717) 346-8196 or scbollinge@pa.gov.
Direct link to website: www.fishandboat.com/Transact/Grants/Pages/VoluntaryPublicAccess-HabitatIncentiveProgram.aspx

www.fishandboat.com/Transact/Grants/Pages/VoluntaryPublicAccess-HabitatIncentiveProgram.aspx
Glad to see this is finally happening. New York's program has been around for a long time.
 
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