Big Hunting Creek in Maryland

DaveKile

DaveKile

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I live about an hour away from Big Hunting Creek. It is part of a couple of parks and Camp David. It is a great place for camping, hiking and Big Hunting Creek. I must say I have gotten a lot more great pictures than trout at Big Hunting Creek. If you want a fun place to take the family for different kind of visit it is pretty good. Lakes, stream, cascade falls and same really nice views especially in the fall.

Catoctin Mountain Park (NPS) and Cunningham Falls State Park (MSP) make up the two parks with Camp David situated at the top of Catoctin Mountain Park (NPS). The joke is that when any of the presidents are at Camp David, the park service rangers bring in new staff that look like Arnold Schwarzenegger. Parts of the park roads all get closed. You can drive by the Camp David entrance, but there is no sign that announces the location. Just some gates, a big sign that that says "Entrance 5" or something. Do not go up that road or you will have some new friends.

Has any had any luck there fishing besides Jimmy Carter?

 
President Carter was known to fish Spruce Creek.
 
I've fished BHC and the Catoctin region for forty years. It's changed a lot over the years but much remains as it was when I was a kid and visiting these spots has sentimental value - too much for me to write in one post.
The main difference on BHC since the late 1990s is the abatement of stocking and the decline in angling pressure.

Back in the 80s it was just pummeled with anglers and finding a place to park was tough - a real destination spot. It was heavily stocked with large bows and brookies (you could keep a 15" fish). While it still gets a few stocked bows these days, it's basically a wild brown trout stream and it's much tougher to catch fish. Parking can still be crowded on weekends, but these are mostly hikers now and fishermen are much fewer.

Historically, it has been fished by many well known types, Joe Brooks being the best known. There used be stories that when Eisenhower visited Camp David (he gave it that name) that they would stock BHC with huge fish and word would get out to locals who would arrive to catch the big fish that Ike couldn't.
 
I fish BHC a few times each year. It's only about a 40 minute drive, and I usually catch a trout or two, but it's not my favorite stream. (If I'm going to drive in that direction, I usually just keep going up to the Cumberland Valley.) Still, if time is limited, BHC isn't a bad place to fish.
 
I consider BHC my home stream, being only 15 minutes from my house.

I first started fishing BHC in the early 90s.
when my wife was a ranger at Cunningham Falls SP and we were lucky enough to live in a small cabin right off 77 up on top of the mountain.

I was pretty spoiled back then, I still remember the big fish that were stocked BITD. It was kinda weird to catch 18” trout in BHC.

I much prefer the wild brown trout to stockers.

It’s a beautiful stream


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It was kinda weird to catch 18” trout in BHC.

I much prefer the wild brown trout to stockers.
I agree, and the food supply isn't there in BHC to sustain the large stockers. I caught a few back in day with large heads and snake-like bodies. The first time, I thought I'd caught a pickerel until I landed it.
 
I used to fish it every May when my son and a couple of nephews were involved with the Brotherhood of the Jungle Cock. I sponsored them and attended at least 15 BOJC campfires. As I recall most of the fish in the Cunningham falls section are stocked rainbows and browns. In years where the water was up I always had good success with egg patterns and wooly buggers and caught some big rainbows that way. In years when the water levels were low and clear it was much tougher considering that there were a lot of fishermen working the stream in Mid May. I've never fished it in October, my favorite month for trout fishing around this region. Perhaps next fall I'll give it a try since I get a Maryland license in order to fish for hickory and American shad in the Spring.
 
I've never fished it in October, my favorite month for trout fishing around this region. Perhaps next fall I'll give it a try since I get a Maryland license in order to fish for hickory and American shad in the Spring.
It's often running very low in October.
 
Only ever fished it once maybe 7 or 8 years ago because I was in the area and had time to waste. Caught one of the fattest wild browns I've even seen. She was almost bigger around than long and laying in a very public spot those familiar with the stream might know. Definitely need to go back.
 
BHC is one of those streams that gets a ton of pressure but if you're the first one through on a given day you can do very well. It also has some sections that are less popular that have a lower density trout population, but because those areas aren't fished daily, they can be as productive as the popular stretch.

I've found most of the browns to be on the smaller side there but every now and then I see a photo of a real gem of a fish from there. It is probably one of the top 5 most popular streams in MD but IMO it isn't even top 20 in trout population. Then again it says something about the quality of the stream that it still has a substantial wild brown population with the pressure it receives.
 
Thanks Dave for posting Dan Neuland's column in the Frederick News-Post. Dan has been part of a group from the Brotherhood of the Jungle Cock working on a range of projects for Big Hunting Creek. The stream is one of a handful of places where I learned an appreciation for fly fishing. I started at 9, and at 57, I still feel like I've got a lot to learn. Fly fishing brings me endless joy and fascinates me to no end. And catching trout in Big Hunting Creek remains a challenge. When I fish it, I feel like I am 9 years old. I suspect many of you feel the same way about the places you fished as a kid.

In addition to the Fly Fishing Heritage Trail, the Brotherhood of the Jungle Cock also are increasingly optimistic about securing a youth-only, fly-only section of the stream in the area now under water at Frank Bentz Pond. Frank Bentz was one of three founders of the BOJC and a strong advocate for introducing kids to a conservation ethic through the sport of fly fishing. His son, Frank Jr., was a longtime BOJC leader, as is his grandson, Frank III, as well as his kids and family members. Though the pond being named in Frank Sr.'s honor was nice, the fishing spot has mainly devolved into a meat-hole for put and take guys. Naming a kids-only fly-only section in Frank's honor would be more in keeping with honoring his legacy.

For those of you unfamiliar with the brotherhood, it was established specifically to encourage we seasoned anglers to introduce young people to the sport of fly fishing. The idea of the founders (Frank Bentz, Hamilton Brown and Joseph W. Brooks) was both altruistic and self-serving. They wanted to see trout and the beautiful places where trout live preserved for future generations. They also came up with the idea that if they taught young people how to fly fish and those people continued to pass the sport along, they themselves would continue to fly fish even after passing from this earthly realm.

The Maryland Chapter of BOJC was the first, and has since spawned chapters in Pennsylvania, Virginia, Ohio, New York and Michigan.

If you'd like to learn more about the brotherhood, visit https://bojcmd.wordpress.com

If you are interested in joining and taking up the commitment to take a kid a fishin' send me a PM. It's a wonderful weekend event where the grown-ups are not allowed to fish, yet many of them track down kids to bring along because they so value the friendships they've made in the organization. In addition to the Bentz family, there are many three and four generation brotherhood families.

If you would like to read more about the BOJC vision for Big Hunting Creek, check out the article in the BOJC Maryland 2021 newsletter (pages 26-29) at https://bojcmd.files.wordpress.com/2021/04/bojc_news_2021_online.pdf

If you have an interest in how Catoctin Mountain National Park, Camp David and the Catch and Release section on Big Hunting Creek, read An Administrative History by Barbara Kirkconnell at https://www.nps.gov/cato/learn/historyculture/index.htm. Though the title makes it sound super boring, if you are interested in the subject matter, she has a wonderfully engaging writing style.

Finally, I encourage anyone with an interest in perpetuating our sport of fly fishing to make a comment in favor of the Fly Fishing Heritage Trail at https://parkplanning.nps.gov/commentForm.cfm?documentID=117384

If you are at a loss for words, my friend, BOJC Maryland President John Zimmer, put together the following as a boilerplate message to leave:

To Whom it May Concern:

I have been visiting Thurmont and Catoctin Mountain Park at least annually for fifty years. I have fished Big Hunting Creek since my youth and have many, many fond memories of the area as a result. I'm excited about the possibility of a Fly Fishing Heritage Trail as part of a broader trail system improvement project for many reasons.

I think it's important that the unique history of Hunting Creek as one of the first catch and release fly fishing only trout streams in the country should not only be recognized but expanded upon. More on that in a minute.

I also think developing a better public awareness about the historical importance of the fishery will lead to greater respect for maintaining the area in excellent environmental condition for future generations to enjoy as I have. By excellent environmental condition I mean less trash and poaching of trout.

What motivated me most to respond to your request for input, however, is the thought of how great it would be if the Fly Fishing Heritage Trail could extend beyond the park trail system from approximately Frank Bentz Pond downstream to Thurmont Park and the Thurmont Trolley Trail. The dam which is presently responsible for Frank Bentz Pond is scheduled to be removed in the near future. MDE and the Town of Thurmont are presently developing the details for the dam removal and now would be a perfect time to start coordinating the extension of the Fly Fishing Heritage Trail to connect Catoctin State Park to Thurmont Park and the Thurmont Troll
ey Trail. I believe it would also be appropriate for MDE and the Town of Thurmont to restore the streambed to it's original condition and re-designate the area as a Youth Only, Fly Fishing Only Catch and Release section, likely the first of it's kind in the country, possibly the world. Such a designation would be consistent with the catch and release fly fishing only regulations in the state park and the vision of Frank Bentz, Sr. as one of the founders of The Brotherhood of the Jungle Cock (1940), an organization dedicated to educating youth about preservation and conservation of natural resources through the medium of fishing.

Thank you for the opportunity to share my thoughts.


Again, I'd like to express my thanks to Dave Kile for seeing fit to make this post.

Finally, I'd like to leave you with a photo of a Big Hunting Creek monster brown, a fish of about 11 inches, who fell victim to a No. 8 cork beetle fished from my son's rod, which also is one of my favorites. Old-timers like me will recognize that he swam past a Little Lehigh green Honey Bug fished hopper-dropper style. That hopper-dropper system works really well in Big Hunting. Those of you in the know can attest to the hypnotic power of the Honey Bug.

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This thread sure brings back the memories! Big Hunting Creek was where I first started fly fishing around 1975 or so. I grew up in Northern Virginia and, when I was about age 14, I asked Santa for a fly rod for Christmas. Using that rod and the book "Trout Fishing" by Joe Brooks I taught myself the basics on BHC(I have my parents to thank for driving me the hour out there for many fishing and camping trips before I could drive myself!). Fittingly, I caught my first trout just downstream from the Joe Brooks memorial near the visitor center. I last fished there about 3 years ago when my mom was still alive. I drove out from Pittsburgh and she drove out from Virginia to hang out and read by the stream while I fished. Just like the old days! To say the stream has changed over the years would certainly be an understatement but, it's still a beautiful place that holds a lot of memories. I wish I were able to visit more often. Maybe I'll run into some of you there one of these days. Tight Lines!
 
I fished it on a "Fish-for-Free" day in July back in 2015 with board member "TimRobinson" (Derek) and we got drenched. A few fish were caught and good times were had!

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I agree, and the food supply isn't there in BHC to sustain the large stockers. I caught a few back in day with large heads and snake-like bodies. The first time, I thought I'd caught a pickerel until I landed it.
clicking thru some BHC pics and found this scrawny looking guy from 2009,

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I'll second that. It sure is purrrty tho!
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and as I said up thread, I much rather catch a 10" wild brown than the starving stockers.
 
Beautiful stream always good for 2-4 fish. I had a single 50+ fish day on it once, and it’s really gone down as one of my favorite days of fishing ever. I definitely prefer BHC over a certain limestoner right next door.

I don’t get out there much, though. Never feels like there’s a reason when I think the GP fishes better and is right in my yard.
 
I use to fish BHC on a regular basis in the 90's and did well. Double digit days on multiple occasions. However, lately it's been hard pressed for me to even buy a strike. It does get a lot of pressure so I will generally only fish it on bad weather or winter days and definitely during the week.
 
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