i will probably get yelled at for saying this but for your first vice do not spend a lot of money on the thing because there is a chance you will not like this hobby . you probably will be able to get the majority of your money back if you were to buy a good quality vice such as the ones above if you sell it but for a beginner stick with a cheapo vice just till you get a feeling for it . other things to get basic whip finisher tool ,bobbin and a spool of thread or two (black and white treads in 6/0 danville ),a pair of scissors for your beginning patterns they are going to be larger in size so jsut get a pair of cheapo gold loops and leave the more expensive stuff alone till you get comfortabel tying ,a spool of copper wire size small or brassie if you are going to tie bigger stuff ie larger nymphs and streamers , and some flat mylar tinsle gold one side silver the other, lead wire or subistitute in .020 . other then that just get the materials you will need for the flys you want to tie (google fly name and get recipe ),as the problem with kits is often they will have subistitute materials to cover two or more patterns and very small quantities of materials so you only get a few flies out of the entire supply ,eventually if you like the fly tying thing you will want to upgrade and get a fancier modle of everything ,but in all reality i have tied a lot of flies on those (junk) vices and yea you can tell they will definatly wear out faster then a quality piece but you can still tie on them . infact most of the stuff im fishing with this year was tied on a 20 dollar el cheapo and they are catching fish.
